people are going to the doctor or de hospital to find out you don't have corage. thank u r comi on.is a pleasure to see you. merry christmas. >> un tell the next surprise >> we will have you back. now end exclusive update. target response to the willis report on the fallout of millions of customers impacted by that data breach. we have co-founder and chairman of identity theft 1. great to have you. 40 million americans in the cross hairs facing what could be a financialloss or identity theft we don't know. what do you make of it? >> el link him breath is still unknown. we just know they found out out, it wws revealed by some of the processors. some people were notified by credit-card companies, a taet made a statemen w still try to gather the full dimensions but it is pretty serious. gerri: we go to night mentioning security, of the numbers that were stolen debit and creditard numbers are o there sold by criminals and to other criminals. maybe were shping at target on black friday value reformation is sold at 20 or 100 bucks per piece for your information right here probably russian

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