kizzy corbet, and my mother was a scientist.life, to raise her two daughters and end breast cancer and she would actually take us to the lab with her often. and i watched how these scientists, they have the -- they have this passion. it's a deep passion to improve human life and condition and to see what is possible. >> and joining me now is susan whiting, she chairs the board of the national women's history museum. and with a big welcome to you, you know, as i think about what we just heard there, some vice presidents shy away from the spotlight, but that doesn't seem to be the case with kamala harris. as the first female biracial vice president, how important in your mind is her visibility? >> oh, it's incredibly important, because what we know is that if you can see someone, you can be like them. you can picture that opportunity ahead of you, and so all the firsts that she's had are things we need to celebrate and talk about and write and make sure that people understand that it's -- that possibility exists for them. so, the