corey coleman investors like growth in the stock pricing. it is a full's aaron to chase after stocks. caroline: is this a growth stock, should we stop looking at that that way? corey coleman the expectations [indiscernible] the change in the business, we have gone from it the no one product company to a two product company to a three product company with the mac, iphone, and the tablet. investors are much slower to update their stuff. the users need a new thing every 12 months over 18 months. they're pushing up their cycles where they might get one device every year but it might be three years until the upgrade their phone or their pc or tablet. maybe they sell some expensive add-ons. this seems to be a bit of a disaster in the making. cordlessise these new air phones and they did not get to the sales i quickly enough. you promised [inaudible] ben: it is interesting trying these things out where you have something that does not have accord in it. when you have a cord it comes out pretty easy but if you do called --ot get talked on or hold on