corey steiner. we work with him and he is awesome. but point is, if the system doesn't create incentives that lead to learning and if educators have never been afforded an opportunity to understand the science of how students learn and students are asked to learn but never taught how to learn, we have a factory that keeps generating failure and disengagement. if you are asking me to go back without changing the variables of the system you are asking me to go back to increase my anxiety, depression, and possibly my suicide unless you fix the system. the talk has to be systemwide rather than system -- symptom-based and i would put engagement in the symptom category. does that make sense? nat: when you look at the nature of the change in crops that -- chronic absenteeism over the past four years it is pandemic related, a spike during the pandemic. part of my argument that this is a change in behavior that is not system based is a lot of parents were sent a lot of messages. a lot of students were sent a lot of messages over the pandemic t

corey steiner. we work with him and he is awesome. but point is, if the system doesn't create incentives that lead to learning and if educators have never been afforded an opportunity to understand the science of how students learn and students are asked to learn but never taught how to learn, we have a factory that keeps generating failure and disengagement. if you are asking me to go back without changing the variables of the system you are asking me to go back to increase my anxiety, depression, and possibly my suicide unless you fix the system. the talk has to be systemwide rather than system -- symptom-based and i would put engagement in the symptom category. does that make sense? nat: when you look at the nature of the change in crops that -- chronic absenteeism over the past four years it is pandemic related, a spike during the pandemic. part of my argument that this is a change in behavior that is not system based is a lot of parents were sent a lot of messages. a lot of students were sent a lot of messages over the pandemic t