so what was shaping up here was an event yul clash at some point between between pittsburgh landing and corinth, which was going to involve basically green armies, men who had never experience experienced who had never experienced a shot fired in anger. a lot of people drive through shiloh today, you know, we lay roads out where the ground is easier to negotiate. so i think that misleads visitors today when they drive on to the battlefield, they don't get the sense of the topographical relief and the nature of the environment for which the battle is going to be fought upon if they don't get out of their cars and step into the woods and start exploring what that forest hides. what it enshrines as one historian would say, because the woods of shiloh are, in his terms, a shrine of american history. we step into the forest, we get a little bit more perspective on what was the common view for a soldier participating in the battle. and the confusion and chaos of combat now that you've got tens of thousands of muskets and dozens of cannons going off, producing all that black powder smoke, there isn't