i this i we have cornel west back. dr. n't see him in my shot. is he there? i actually don't see him in my shot. >> can you see me? >> laura: there you are. now you have finally -- i can see you. can you hear me? >> oh my sister i'm sorry about that. >> laura: i was like did he go to the bathroom? where did he go just now he disappeared completely. >> no. i'm here in my bee loved oklahoma where i was born but thank you so much for allowing me to be part of this conversation on my way to mississippi for the emit tilly event brother jenkins and brother parker dealing with police brutality. it's a blessing to be on your show tonight my dear sister. >> it's great to see you, dr. west. i mentioned this when we lost you for whatever it was 30 seconds. your ballot access, just the nuts and bolts of running for president, you're in fewer than 20 states right now. so, given that fact, which is a pretty big one, why wouldn't you just run as a democrat because green party ballot access is so low right now. >> oh, no. we are on the mov

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all right, you are up first, your reaction to cornell west. >> look, harris, he says president biden n it well, look, 3%, and is best years 1987. so the economy is growing 13 million jobs so mr. cornell, you want to tell earn income of the president is earning it and we still have 460 days before the election. things are looking up f for the president. >> harris: so, here is the problem with shouting into the tv and you know i love you. if actually the president having to do with it, he is talking to someone who really shouldn't be a problem for him for all the things that jose said to come of the people don't feel what jose is talking about. >> that is true, harris. let me be unequivocally clear. the black lives don't matter but black votes do. that has been the case decade after decade. the white house to "the washington post" put out a piece recently they are concerned about black voters and they should be. fox news research put out information just yesterday showing in 2020, like support for democrats at 91% has dropped down to 63%. that is a concern for them, especially among bla

. >> assess cornell west, any anxiety of him running as a green party candidate? >> i do.nybody who wants to turn the page and go to the future in this country should be worried about cornell west. any third party entrants that would take votes from whoever will likely take on the nominee from the gop and that is likely donald trump. i would ask others contemplating third party runs, think about your legacy, the future, and consolidate around entering a democratic primary because that's why we have primaries, competition. >> if there's a conversation you say needs to occur within the democratic party about an alternative to the sitting president of the united states, why isn't the leading contender for that the sitting vice president of the united states kamala harris? >> i think we have a -- i think we live in an era of fear. what if i get out of line and take on my party. >> is she not qualified stw? >> i think she's absolutely qualified. i think everybody should take a little bit of time and sit with people, observe them, know them before you draw conclusions. i think s

at least one voter told me they were considering cornell west.the end of this, their big concerns right now are the economy. they're still feeling the stress of inflation, and jobs are drying up in the state. even though we've seen some of the good economic data, we haven't seen those perceptions seem to catch up yet. as you mentioned, these unfulfilled promises. student debt was something we heard consistently from voters, that they really wanted that policy to come to fruition. obviously, after the supreme court struck it down, we know biden is trying again. but they were disappointing that that hasn't happened yet. >> georgia is important, of course, on its own, but this seems to be also a microcosm of what's happening across the country. we know that republicans made some inroads with particularly black men last time around. we know that this president, despite a very impressive track record, suffers from a lack of enthusiasm from a lot of democratic voters. talkhe borders of georgia and in other states. >> when there is an enthusiasm gap, yo

are you trying to discourage cornell west from running? well, i've known cornell for many, many years. he's a very independent-minded guy and he will do what he wants to do. i just think, again, i think cornell or anybody else can play an important role now about raising issues that are not always discussed, but at the end of the day, i think the progressive community in general and the american people have got to make a decision as to whether we stand for democracy or authoritarianism or whether or not we're going to represent working-class families. >> one of your chief political advisers is concerned that cornell west is being taken advantage of by maybe people that simply want his name on the ballot. do you have those concerns? >> i really haven't thought of it that closely. bernie sanders, the independent senator from vermont who we saw in new hampshire yesterday. thanks for coming on and sharing your views with us. good to see you. >> thank you. >>> when we come back the republican presidential hopefuls republican presidential hopefu

but where i disagree with my good friend, cornel west, i think in these really very difficult times,a real question whether democracy is going to remain in the united states of america, you know, donald trump is not somebody who believes in democracy. whether women will be able to continue to control their own bodies. whether we have social justice in america, end bigotry. around that, we have to bring the entire progressive community to defeat trump or who the republican nominee will be. support biden, but at the same time, which is what i did yesterday, is demand that the democratic party, not just biden, have the guts to take on corporate greed and the massive levels of income and wealth inequality that we see today. >> senator sanders, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. >>> up next, republican candidates are plotting their path forward after the first '24 debate, but who has the momentum and the fund-raiserin ining to it. >>> plus, 60 years after his march on washington, the family of martin luther king jr. is here to reflect on his legacy and what comes next. sa

. >> senator sanders, cornell west who is a close ally of yours, he is running a third-party campaign biden's reelection. listen to what he said. >> i love the brother and even in love people have deep disagreements about these things and again, he's fearful of the neofascism of trump and people leak atted bien and they don't want to tell the full truth. he's created the best economy that we can get. is this the best that we can get? you're going to tell that lie to the people? just for biden to win? >> what's your reaction to that? >> well, my reaction is it certainly is not the best economy that we can create. that's not what my speech was about yesterday. we have to join the rest of the industrialized world and guaranteed health care for all. we have to cut the cost of prescription drugs in half and raise the minimum wage to at least 17 bucks an hour. where i disagree with my good friend cornell west is that i think in these very difficult times where there is a real question whether democracy is going to remain in the united states of america. you know, donald trump is not someone

he wants the democrats to win and cornel west poses an existential threat to a democrat in the white house. >> brian: you know about this whole transgender playing in women sports specifically and when it comes to tennis martina 1/2 control la made it clear most clear people i know outlines of megan rapinoe and alex morgan see it as inherently unfair and now she is speaking out against. she gets backlash every time she speaks out. once again a situation where a transgender tennis player failed on the men's side wins a championship on the woman's side. >> steve: right we're talking about alicia raulie, a biological man won the women's grass court international tournament for 5-plus in the singles and national indoor singles and doubles as well. and given the fact that this alicia raulie won, a biological man in a female sport, that caused -- that prompted a former player kim jones, the founder of the independent council on women's sports to tweet this out. >> ainsley: this is part of what she tweeted women's tennis turning into laughingstock because of terrible poles men over women wh

. >> hate has endorsements from cornell west and former republican senator and nadine rights in thisk that nothing strengthens hate groups more than censoring them. free speech artist. she goesth on to say that free expression is the foundation of human rights. the source of humanity and the mother of truth. thank you for being on book tv. >> thank you for having me, peter. >> nonfiction book lovers c-span is a number podcast for you. listen to authors and influential interviewers on the afterwards podcast. here wide-ranging conversations with nonfiction authors and others were making things happen weekly hour-long conversations that regularly feature fascinating authors of nonfiction books on a wide variety of topics. taking you behind the scene of the nonfiction book book publishing. find all of our podcasts by downloading the free c-span now up or wherever you get your podcast and on our website. c-span.org/podcast. >> you have been watching book tv. every sunday on c-span to watch nonfiction authors discuss their books. television for serious readers. watch them online at any tim

cornell west is vying for the green party nomination.chin is flirting with an independent run. and now dean phillips is calling for a more competitive democratic primary, saying voters don't want a coronation, they want a competition. phillips, in his third term representing minneapolis, i will tell you little about him. he lost his father in vietnam. after business school he joined a family business. he went on to help build a top- selling gelato brand and also opened pennies coffee, a small business. he has denounced the no labels attempt to fill a third-party ticket. but he has called for serious democratic challengers to president biden. last week he met with democratic donors in new york about the race and potentially entering it himself. welcome to the press. >> good to be with you. >> you are not interested in being a candidate for president yourself right now? >> that's a fair statement what i'm technically and legitimately doing is representing. i'm a representative. i represent what i believe to be the majority of the country t

host: d put marianne williamson and cornell west in the same category of challengers as the last time around, people -- and others -- pete buttigieg and others? caller: they are to the left of pete buttigieg. they are the same can of corporate democrats that biden is. look where buttigieg is now. host: are corporate's happy with the president? guest: if you look at a poll that dug into who is supporting the president, in that matchup, he would win most democratic voters. there is more mobility there. even among democratic primary voters, 45% would like to see somebody else besides joe biden beatty nominee -- be the nominee. nobody else is stepping up. when his campaign launched, he was able to lock down the support of anyone such as gavin newsom or jb pritzker, sitting governors who could have challenged him. democrats would have seen them as someone who could beat him. host: in the same poll, do they ask if the president is the candidate, do you still vote for him? guest: yes. if you're looking at the numbers between rk and marianne williamson, he does have the majority of voters. yo

>> joe manchin, cornell west. >> you want him in the primary? >> in the primary.rimaries because that doesn't undermine the likelihood of returning in this case a democrat to the white house. enter the primary, my friends and everybody on the bench, don't wait five years. we need you now. >> you're waiting for somebody whom you said -- >> how long will you wait? >> waiting is like hopes and prayers. i'm actively inviting, encouraging to people that are ready and know it's time to take the chance. >> you met with donors, are you meeting with candidates -- >> if donors and average, everyday, wonderful, normal americans are coming to me of all people you don't think they're approaching those people in much higher numbers with more frequency? >> i know they are, and i'll make the decisionqn once i do m darnedest in the next month or two to encourage others to do so. please, this is an appeal to everybody of good conscience and good character, let's turn the page and imagine how fun, hopeful and exciting would be. we will do it. foo dean philips, democrat from suburban

but let's just talk about cornell west. constituencies we talked about and i think that could absolutely make the difference. donald trump will be elected or not re-elected, i think, based upon the no labels and green parties, cornell west. i don't think there is any question about his inability to get a majority of the american electorate and majority of the electoral college. >> i had a story this week about democrats being nervous about exactly this scenario, that -- this race is going to be close. those close to the president are far more concerned about a cornell west figure or the professor himself stealing away just enough, progressive, young votes, black votes, whatever it might be, to tip the scales. now, most democratic, even big progressive names like bernie sanders and aoc said, no, no, no, we have to stay with the president, the stakes are too high. we have seen donald trump made inroads with black men in 2020. how do you combine all the things, how worried should the white house be? >> again, message and messe

q characters i hate as endorsements from both cornell west and former tennessee republican senator lamar alexander and nadine streisand writes in this book that nothing strengthens hate groups more than censoring them as it turns them into free martyrs. she on to say that free expression is the foundation of human rights, the source of humanity, and the mother of truth. nadine strossen thanks for being on book tv. thank you so much for having me. i say enough how thrilled we are to have tonight's guest author here at theodore books. jeff nussbaum was a

cornel west. this is west commenting on bernie sanders and the democratic party.they are dominated by their corporate wing. they are dominated by the militarists when it comes to foreign policy and he and aoc and the others are going to be in a certain sense window dressing. the democratic party is beyond redemption at this point. >> laura: raymond, i love how joe and kamala, their answer to all of this with, what, a new outreach to the black community, consists of inviting a few elites to the white house for a photo op. and a listening session. >> kamala and i want to convene this incredible group of civil rights leaders for a simple reason, to thank them and to tell them what they tell us, we know we got a lot more work to do. >> there is an anti dote to this i'm sure of it. it will be rooted in our courage like those who 60 years ago marched and stood. there is an opportunity in front of us. >> laura, do you think this moves the needle one iota in the community itself? see, i think raising grocery prices, rising gas prices, the crime that members of the black c

joe manchin, cornell west, we have primaries that doesn't undermine the likelihood of returning a democratctively inviting, encouraging to some degree, imploring people who are ready and know it is time take the chance. >> if it was left to me to comment on this, i can tell you lisa, i would take up the segment. we would need the rest of the show, you have worked campaigns, i start with you. are these democrats so-called independent, are they able to go up against biden, ballot access? >> no, thing which f challenge for the democrats right now, i am sure they would like to get rid of joe biden, i saw a poll 50% of democrats would like a different nominee. then yo you are stuck with kamala harris, this is interesting how do you get rid of both, kamala harris is least popular american vice president in history, less popular than dick cheney after he shot someone, that says something. that is the challenge, they don't want to encourage a third party run, you could go to 2016, jill stein cost the democrats the election, if her voters voted for clinton, she would have been president. you know,

then you get this third-party group talking about a nominee and cornell west always having the peoplethe race taking votes away, and taking from biden so president trump shouldn't be the nominee, maybe needs 40% of the vote wisconsin and pennsylvania, he wins those, he becomes president again. stuart: thank you for your commentary this morning. an amazing situation, trump versus biden again. another republican candidates. >> governor desantis says he'll and the organization of government, he'll replace the fbi director and ensure standard of justice for all. he calls d.c. a swamp it is unfair to stand trial before a jury reflective of the swamp. it could be the trial. the fact vivek ramaswamy was un-american and commit to pardoning, trump and calls the federal police corrupt with one mission, to eliminate trump and then mike prince. pressure to overturn the election results and obviously was more sober and anyone who puts himself over the constitution should never be president. stuart: thanks so much. want to get back to the debt downgrade. brian is with us, he's talking to people thi

cornell west.enting on bernie sanders in the democratic party. >> they are dominated by the corporate wing. dominated by the military with foreign-policy arests me . he and aoc and the others willdr be windowdressing for theti ondemocratic party at this poin. >> laura: i love how joe biden, harris the answer to all of this with they invite if you leads to the white house for the photo op in the listenin>>gdi sessiobln. >> we wanted to convene this in person. w to tell them what they tell us. >> there is an anecdote to this i am sure of it those who like 60 years ago marched and stood there is an opportunity in fronl of us. >> do you think the needle is moved 1 iota in the community itself? raising grocery prices, rising gas prices, members of the black community are enduring every day. that's what they see and tablexperience.i so they see a bunch of elites sitting around the table with biden they have to do a heavy editing job because nobody made a coherent sentence in totaldoue .id we will see som

green party candidate cornel west says all hope is gone for the democratic party ahead of the 2024 election dominated by the corporate wing. dominant from foreign-policy. and will be windowdressing at this point. >> west went on to say the third-party bid is a stand against republicans and democrats. >> former president donald trump would have vivek ramaswamy as his right-hand man it has a few tips for him first. he said "he is a smart guy he has a lot of talent. he is a very intelligent person. good energy and could be some form of something. i tell you i think he would be very good. he is getting a little bit controversial, i would tell him be a little bit careful. vivek ramaswamy was targeted at the first debate recently said he has no interest in becoming trump's running mate. >> don't miss the second presidential primary debate on foxbusiness moderated by stuart varney and dana perino. the qualifying candidates will take to the stage september 27. at the ronald rain presidential institute. the first primary debate pulled in 12.8 million viewers across all platforms. for the very first

cornel west, many want biden to address the poor and downtrodden. >> they are dominated by corporate regime and foreign policy and he and aoc and others will be in a certain sense window dressing. democratic party is beyond redemption at this point. former president trump said he is interested in vivek ramaswamy to be his vice president. vivek ramaswamy says he is not interesting. >> steve: he says vivek ramaswamy has to be less controversial. >> brian: somebody who runs from controversy, is this true how i introduce you, you don't like controversy? >> i love controversy, idea of donald trump telling people to calm down and not be controversial is laughable. >> steve: the new book sounds like the white house treats him like a toddler, he feels tired, feeds into the opinion. >> that is why he falls asleep in public. >> steve: how about the fact so many people at the white house are controlling him. we have seen him go i'd love to talk to you, but they'll get mad. who is running the white house? >> nobody at the white house trusts the boss not to do something ridiculous in public. ever

you have a cornel west push from the left. looking to put someone in and why you now have active democratic groups doing what they can to keep no labels off the ballot to keep votes going away from biden. >> harris: don't take away from marian williamson. you are doing some damage on the left. such a fascinating comparison. teddy kennedy versus carter, we haven't seen the lowest numbers we've seen since carter. joe biden has those now and now rfk junior against biden. kevin, history and the present. your take? >> it may repeat itself. the president has a strong approval rating with democrats. high 70s. we have a lot of work to do. we have 14 months before this election. in that "new york times" poll the president is leading with independents. a key constituents. young people and african-american. core democratic group. the vice president is speaking to these groups every day or every other day. the president will do the same thing. we have a lot of field left to contend this election certainly. >> harris: you sneaked in africa

and if cornell west runs the third party candidate trump would definitely win if the election were helday. joining me now on all of this news and more sean duffy, co-host of fbn the bottom line. sean, great to see you don't. >> you too. >> now, all of these indictments, i think people are sort of tired of hearing from the indictments because of course they are coming after trump because he is getting stronger and stronger but they are obviously not hurting him. why is that? >> first of all the american voter who loves donald trump, it's not like he embezzled money from the federal covers or sold the country out to china or ukraine. he hannity had relations with little girls. they see these charges as what they are. they are -- the doj, the fbi, coming after a former president that they do not like. and so they haven't moved away from donald trump. what it's actually done, laura, is made some of those voters who really didn't like the tone and tenor of president trump. they liked the policies but they wanted to find someone else other than the president. they have angered them. and now t

cornell west is seeking the green party.y carter faced off against ronald regan, a match-up some people didn't like, john anderson decided to lead his party and launch an independent bid. here's how he pitched his candidacy on the bid. >> in contrast to these two, both of them exgovernors, i think i represent the broad political center of this country. i will make it abundantly clear that you don't have to go back to some prior decade to find the solutions to the problems of the future. you don't have to be content with the kind of demonstrated incompetence that we have seen in the white house for the last four years, that there is a third way and i represent that third approach of the american voters. >> john anderson would end up winning less than 7% of the vote. >>> as former president trump went to court, president biden went for a bike ride. how president biden plans to handle his rival's potential legal problems. >>> welcome back. i want to start with something written jed in the paper. country lacks a unifying voice i

third-party presidential candidate cornell west slamming the democrat establishment and bernie sanders for endorsing biden, the establishment for being dominated by corporate wenger and it is time for an alternative third-party candidate. watch here. >> the argument he is making means there's never any possibility from breaking from the corporate duopoly, and any never any possibility of trying to speak to the needs of poor working people. deep in his heart he knows the democratic party has no fundamental intention of speaking to the needs of poor people and working people, they are dominated by the corporate wing, dominated by the militarists when it comes to foreign policy and aoc and the others are going to be in a certain sense windowdressing. >> he's attacking democrats. who does he help? donald trump. stuart: i think so. the third-party candidacy would take votes away from democrats and give them to donald trump or whichever republican is in the lead. >> he would be giving the far left side of the democratic party a place to go. god bless him. he's doing the good lord's work for

latest poll by emerson that came out, he's down by 2, down by 5 in the same poll if, in fact, cornell wests as a third-party candidate. probably a strong possibility. "new york post" has a poll, joe biden down by 3. new poll from the ap reveals a whopping 77% of americans believe joe biden is too old to eventually serve term. no surprise there, i highly doubt biden is capable of serving right now. he just spent 23 of the last 30 days on vacation according to rnc research. during the rare occasions that he actually works, joe refuses to answer serious questions. he's not fulfilling response of the lease, i.e. the case and molly, especially when things come to corruption and bribery allegations. he's only doing interviews with the weather channel. when biden boasted about leveraging that 1 billion u.s. tax dollars as vice resident. to force-out ukraine's top prosecutor, the same guy who was investigating the company paying his son millions of dollars for work in which he had no experience at all. well, anyway, talk about corruption. not only do they trusted fbi source accused joe biden of ac

you know, joe biden is the presumed nominee, but cornel west and rfk jr.y and start acting like the general election has begun and if that's the case you're taking on the front runner and that is uneek voe kplee donald trump. i think it's money well spent. >> ashley and s.e., thank you both very much. look forward to speaking with you in the coming days. >>> coming up for us, the remnants of hillary still having a major impact on southern california. the storm also now causing a ripple effect on air travel. we have an update for you next. she runs and plays like a puppy again. his #2s are perfect! he's a brand new dog, all in less than a year. when people switch their dog's food from kibble to t the farmer's dog, they often say ththat it feels like magic. but there's no magic involved. (dog barark) it's simply fresh meat and vegetables, with all the nutrients dogs need— instead of dried pellets. just food made for the health of dogs. delivered in packs portioned for your dog. it's amazing what real food can do. this is your summer to smile. to raise your g

you're talking about the professor out of princeton -- rachel: cornel west.number three, we cannot underestimate the dissatisfied mood of the public and his ability, trump's ability, to mobilize voters. i think there's going to be a very close race. he seems impervious no matter how many indictments. you can run for president from jail. so, obviously, this memo was meant for public consumption. rachel: yeah. pete: but it's a recognition that when you look at the polling, it's a horse race. and what really matters are those four or five states are where donald trump polls very strongly. will: take a look at in "the new york times"-sienna poll, biden versus trump matchup if it were held today, you're looking at a dead even heat. the operative part of this, to me, the part we should be talking about, i think, increasingly more, is that prospect of a third party run. you know, rfk just took a trip to the border, and he came back, and he was talking very hawkish on the border. rachel: yeah. of. will: look, he's still on the left are. it doesn't take very deep the

it's one of the reasons they're concerned about cornel west. we look live at the state fair. with governor kim reynolds in their soapbox talk. want to listen in? >> the size of our nation's economy. first time since world war ii. i think the time has come to have leadership in the white house that's honest with the american people and says look, for everybody in retirement we won't change anything. you have hair the same color of me it won't affect you at all. frankly anybody 40 or older we won't change it. you can't change horses in the middle of the stream, right? but for anybody under the age of 40 like that young lady i would like to have a conversation that maybe we can reform the new deal programs and give you a better deal by making sure that social security and medicare are actually there for you and that this mountain range of debt that is driving inflation that will literally bury our economy under debt and what the democrats want to do higher taxes isn't there. i think tackling runaway spending. >> bret: talking about debt and deficit. not a conversation that repub

when you throw in green party candidate cornell west in the mix, trump leads 43 to 41.? >> it just means that there is an opportunity to tell the story of progress and success. have delivering the state of michigan. whether states like bringing supplies, chains homes to the chips and science acts. we're creating jobs in the semiconductor. industry expanding electric vehicle production. which is lead some of the biggest operation projects in the history of this in michigan. this administration has delivered us on higher job participation rates as well as the lowest unemployment rate in 23 years. this is due to coordination with our federal partners, vice president harris, president biden, the. delegation will tell that story across america. >> lieutenant governor, michigan lieutenant governor gilchrist, thank you so much for coming back to the sunday show. >> up, next special elections in ohio. and how it could impact abortion rights battle. we'll explain after the break. explain after the break. i use secret aluminum free. just swipe and it lasts all day. secret helps e

that the concern about the progressive flank of the democratic party in particular, because of cornell westus campaigns for president is running his own independent campaign. and there is the worry that in a couple of these key swing states, that could siphon away progressive votes from joe biden. this is bernie sanders sending a signal to progressive voters that he is on board with biden's reelection campaign. he believes that the stakes are too high to go with any sort of risky route and he wants biden to be reelected, and also saying that he believes biden has made a lot of progress, particularly on these progressive issues over his first term in office, lindsey. >> bernie sanders was on meet the press this morning, what did he tell chuck todd about the 2024 democratic primary. >> he really implored progressive voters to not think of it as a divide within their party, but to look at the bigger struggle in that struggle, being against the danger of donald trump being elected and sent back to the white house. listen to what he told chuck this morning. >> do you think that there would be a

. >> in a race that's expected to be close, that or a third-party challenge like cornell west even takinghite house reporter from "the washington post" tyler page. thank you for joining us. thank you for getting up "way too early" with us this friday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i resigned on d december 14th because i thought at that point the state votes were certified and that was the end of the legal frost right. >> and i also didn't like the way he was spouting the big lie. i thought that was irresponsible. he took it much further than even i expected or anyone expected, and during this time, he was being told by lawyers in the white house that if he kept on doing this, he would spend the rest of his life tangling with the criminal justice process. and that's exactly what's

cornell west is seeking the green party nomination.gainst ronald reagan, a matchup that some people didn't like. republican congressman john anderson of illinois decided to leave his party and launched an independent bid. here's how he pitched it in this program. >> i think i represent the broad, political center of this country. i will make it abundantly clear that you don't have to go back to some prior decade to find the solutions to the problems of the future. you don't have to be content with the kind of demonstrated incompetence that we have seen in the white house for the last four years, that there is a third way, and i represent that third approach for the american voter. >> john anderson would end up winning less than 7% of the vote. when we come back, as former when we come back, as former president trump went to court on if y you have heheart disease and d are on a s statin, lowering c cholesterolol can bebe hard. diets and exerercise adadd to the s struggle. today, it't's possiblele to go o from struguggle to choleststerol

doesn't drive you, and all of this is going to get thrown into the washing machine, and throw cornell west a real green party candidate, i don't know what's going to happen. >> george: are you pretty confident donald trump will get the nomination? >> at this point i think there's a couple of people making moves. i think that vivek has made some moves. i think chris christie has made some moves in new hampshire, they're all runng 20%, 30%, 40% below president trump. and my point before is that these issues, indictment after indictment, election integrity, this is embedded into the decision-making that you're asking -- >> george: i totally get that, and i want to go to donna in a second, but i have to ask one more question. so you believe he's more likely than not -- >> yes. >> george: -- to be the nominee at this point. are you comfortable with the fact as a former chief of staff in the white house with your nominee facing three felony trials as he's moving into the general election? >> well, look, i don't think it helps you in a general election. i mean, certainly these indictments are not

it is mad for the left to vote for cornell west when fascism is at the door. un then. i take your point on 2000. 2016 is a little more comp complicated. gary johnson was taking votes from donald trump. there is an argument about whether stein and johnson canceled each other out. we'll never know. the third party candidate threat is real, even going back to ross perot in the early '90s. i'd say this about no labels. talk about being on different sides. i disagree with you, joe. you're far to generous to the no labels people. when you say, i don't question their motives or their intentions. i do. i don't know what the hell it is. molly makes the point, you know, we hope they're naive. it's a best of vanity campaign. at worst, it is a right-wing op. joe manchin spent years undermining the democrats in the senate, undermining joe biden, and now he is considering a no labels presidential run. what i would say to someone who pushes this line, and there are a lot of ordinary americans who do say, look, i just want someone in the middle. i want this kind of bipartisan

if, in fact, cornell wesl west s as a third party candidate, probably a strong possibility. "new york posty candid " has a poll. joe biden down by three new poll from the ap reveals that a whopping 77% of americans believe joe biden is too old to effectively serve a second term. and no surprise there. noe biden capable of serving right now. he just spent 23 of the lastdayo 30 days on vacation, according to rnc researcn accordih, and g the rare occasions that joe refusess ques to answer serious questions. he's not fulfilling he's in eitherspeciall case, out maue especially when things come to corruptiongsn and bribery allegations. he's only doing interviews with the weather channel. terviewsh remember what biden boasted about leveraging that 1 billion us tax dollars as vice president to force out ukraineee ? a top prosecutor, the same guy who was investigating the companho wasy paying his son millions of dollars for work in which he had no experience at all?l. well, anyway, talk d about corruption. not only did a trusted fbi source accuse joe biden ofpting accepting a massive

other headlines reflected by other democratic candidates interested in the office, cornell west beingw much of a factor that's display -- does this play as it works against pres biden? guest: i do not think it will be a big issue. i think at the end of the day voters know the stakes of our elections now and i think they will be much less likely to throw away vote to a candidate who cannot win. none of the third-party candidates are sniffing around have any chance of money. but i the last election by 4.5 points. -- biden won the last election by 4.5 points. i feel good about where we are. on the third-party efforts i think will be able to manage it but has to be managed and i think sometimes we do not pay enough attention to it in 2016 and even 2000. this time i did not think anyone is napping on the third-party candidates. if there are real third-party runs, will have to talk about it make sure they do not get a free pass and we will have to make during the way the vote in a time of crisis in the country something that becomes part of our narrative and story ancestor to it. we learned

host: d put marianne williamson and cornell west in the same category of challengers as the last time people -- and others -- pete buttigieg and others? caller: they are to the left of pete buttigieg. they are the same can of corporate democrats that biden is. look where buttigieg is now. host: are corporate's happy with the president? guest: if you look at a poll that dug into who is supporting the president, in that matchup, he would win most democratic voters. there is more mobility there. even among democratic primary voters, 45% would like to see somebody else besides joe biden beatty nominee -- be the nominee. nobody else is stepping up. when his campaign launched, he was able to lock down the support of anyone such as gavin newsom or jb pritzker, sitting governors who could have challenged him. democrats would have seen them as someone who could beat him. host: in the same poll, do they ask if the president is the candidate, do you still vote for him? guest: yes. if you're looking at the numbers between rk and marianne williamson, he does have the majority of voters. you look a

other headlines reflected by other democratic candidates interested in the office, cornell west beingw much of a factor that's display -- does this play as it works against pres biden? guest: i do not think it will be a big issue. i think at the end of the day voters know the stakes of our elections now and i think they will be much less likely to throw away vote to a candidate who cannot win. none of the third-party candidates are sniffing around have any chance of money. but i the last election by 4.5 points. -- biden won the last election by 4.5 points. i feel good about where we are. on the third-party efforts i think will be able to manage it but has to be managed and i think sometimes we do not pay enough attention to it in 2016 and even 2000. this time i did not think anyone is napping on the third-party candidates. if there are real third-party runs, will have to talk about it make sure they do not get a free pass and we will have to make during the way the vote in a time of crisis in the country something that becomes part of our narrative and story ancestor to it. we learned

cornell west is running in the green party.e cares about poor people, housing, food stamps and everything. he will make a great third-party candidate. that's who i'm going to vote for. host: one more call from tim ischemic -- from tim in michigan, republican. caller: my main concern this week would be the gentleman that got unalived from the fbi for making the claim for threatening jill biden -- joe biden. it is a serious think and puts a lot of scare enter the country as a whole. that means, this is going beyond of what i have ever seen in my 57 years of living. that is not good. we need to definitely lady says something about shooting donald trump and with this a long time, people can just say what they want which we do have the freedom of speech for the problem is that it is going way too far when these people can do what they want to do and threaten people and go on and shoot them. thank you. host: coming up on "washington journal", new republican magazine senior editor alec sheppard joins us talk about another busy week on

. >> in a race that's expected to be close, that or a third-party challenge like cornell west even taking a few votes would all matter. great stuff as always from white house reporter from "the washington post" tyler page. thank you for joining us. thank you for getting up "way too early" with us this friday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i resigned on d december 14th because i thought at that point the state votes were certified and that was the end of the legal frost right. >> and i also didn't like the way he was spouting the big lie. i thought that was irresponsible. he took it much further than even i expected or anyone expected, and during this time, he was being told by lawyers in the white house that if he kept on doing this, he would spend the rest of his life tangling with the criminal justice process. and that's exactly what's happened. he shouldn't be surprised and no one else should be surprised. >> he shouldn't be surprised, nobody else should be surprised, anybody that has followed this story at all, unless they're reading about it on, i don't know, websites r

cornell bernard, abc7 news. kristen: a convoy loaded with relief supplies has arrived in west maui and that didn't take long for locals to come looking for help. all of it handed out to thousands of needy residents of lahaina. many citizens kept coming with bags in hand grateful for assistance. >> what do you guys need right now? >> food, gas, water, anything, clothes. supplies, hygiene, who knows? anything can help. kristen: some restaurant owners have begun pitching and by serving free food to those in need. a major challenge is getting foods and goods related to the people who are still stranded in lahaina since roads are blocked off. larry: search-and-rescue teams from the bay area are in hawaii to help with the recovery effort. this volunteer boarded a flight to hollander this morning. he's done similar work for 18 years including disaster deployments after floods, and hurricanes and fires all over the u.s. he will spend the next two weeks assisting the folks in hawaii. >> i think the physical separation of the islands is going to be a unix challenge -- a unix challenge. i never had to deal with that kind