. >> rose: talk about josh and cornelia. >> well, they're married and -- >> rose: ben stiller and naomivie. >> yeah, they have been married for a little while, and he is a document rifilmmaker who's now into his ninth or tenth year depending on when you ask him of the same documentary and he's stuck and he's, you know having trouble admitting it, perhap. and i wanted to present a marriage where there wasn't anything necessarily overtly wrong, you know. that you couldn't necessarily say, hey, you know. >> rose: yeah. but they on some level i always felt, knew something needed to change and needed to shake them out of, you know a kind of, i suppose a certain routine. you know, when they meet this younger couple, that at least triggers it. >> rose: and makes them think about living a different kind of life? >> yeah. well, i think -- yeah. the younger couple is almost -- they're many things. they sort of in some ways represent a different generation they represent youth, they represent the kids that they don't have. i mean, they're also -- ben and naomi's characters don't have a child, they