guest: that base was in the cornwall valley. i have been to the cornwall valley. the soldiers in that unit were there for 15 months, day after day of patrolling and standing watch and trying to deal with the people they don't want to be dealt with. it is one of the examples of the greatest bravery and fortitude of the experience in afghanistan. i don't mean that it was right that there should have been a base there. you are right, these options went up 8000 feet and there were pine trees on top. there could be a kilometer between one side and the other in which the taliban could fire across. you see the soldiers going on patrol day after day who were very hardened and used to their weapons and operating entity the snow and the rain and the heat. they had an immediate reaction. in some ways, the battlefield there more like i imagine korea to be then something in a counterinsurgency effort in afghanistan. could we have won in afghanistan? not in the traditional sense we think about winning. the reason is taliban has pakistan that could go to. there are corruption pr