if they were going to come to kill rod coronado, then rod coronado would cease to exist. so at that point he slipped out of l.a. he flew to south dakota where his -- but the things he's been reading about they are all prominent in the lakota so he flew to south dakota and he had some kind of a connection there. of some folks who said they had a cabin for him. and he changed his name to martine rubio and he became a lakota for six months and this is how he then proceeded to live his life for the next like 2 1/2 years. bouncing from reservation to reservation, very often using the name martine. he had lots of fake ids that had those names on them. but he changed his name a lot and eventually he made his way down to the reservation down in tucson where he eventually was arrested where he changed his whole way of working. he stopped doing environmental work in this kind of way and he started working with indian youth taking them to environmental events like at mount graham where they have giant controversies over giant telescopes over there. . they were with his tribe and the