market and do you buy hugh's thesis that this is going to be a sharp correction but just a correction? >> well, making the case for the correction is how far the market's gone. without a correction we've gone 143 days without the market going down 5% which is what we have now experienced today with the s&p so we have been overdue for some selling. if you look at what's going on in the emerging market front, thankfully that's happening at a time when europe is accelerating in its growth, not robustly but somewhat. the u.s. economy we think still looks relatively durable and japanese growth is holding up okay. so we do think that will mitigate some of the softness that we're clearly experiencing in the emerging market economies. >> we're at the lows of the day in the dow, the s&p, the nasdaq and the transports, and the ten-year note is on the verge of breaking the 2.6% level. the bond market, i'm just pushing back a little because the bond market seems to be indicating that maybe it is just a sharp correction but that there might be something else out there. we just broke the 2.6% level

>> that's correct. the challenge we face in this case is that it doesn't let us to close the permit. >> i think that's one way to go if the board were to decide that the permitee should be allowed to complete an application then complete the application and the permitting process starts for the applicant. the other approach which i think is a bit trickier is that the board, that the permitee submit the application to the board and the board would determine whether it's adequately permitted and issued. the first approach is i think would be more consistent with what the city would do. >> okay, maybe my logic is a little bit simplistic. but there is a permit application. that permit application was disapproved. >> it was never actually submitted. they didn't allow him to complete it. it was partially submitted but not approved. they didn't review the mobile facility permit. >> the application was submitted. but additional information was required. however there is an application in. that application has b

we classify a correction as being down 10%.e're wondering whether we're to follow here, kelly. >> exactly. the question, bill is whether long-term investors should fear a correction as well or embrace it, and there's no one better to ask than gem ma godfrey and michael farr from farr miller and washington. gem ma i want to kick off with you. why is it whatever happens in japan, we seem to follow suit? >> it's been one of the best performing markets last year. if we broaden out to what's been going on in markets, obviously it's been very consensus driven. that's why investors are focusing on that market and it's a very crowded trade. investors are heavily invested in japan and in tech which is why a lot of the market sell-off has also been driven by these different markets. the way we're looking at it anyway is we're going to be focusing on pullbacks as a buying opportunity. so, for example, in japan, we'd actually be looking at small caps because the interesting thing about the japanese market is the small cap market, they are

i thought this could be corrected through a correction and if they wanted a merger of the dwelling they can do that as well. then i found they were now violating what the board required and making other changes. the changes maybe enough in total of that, the total categorical exemption had not been. i thought we were flexible in giving time for the project sponsor to address these issues. we did, we were very clear in saying we wanted all the changes in one project and they certainly did give that to us. it's not what we were expecting. it's more than what this board had conditioned. so today we suspended all active permits related to the project which includes the permit to install the garage. we think that's been fair. the decision is appealable to this board within 15 days and i reminded the project sponsor with that. they can come back and argue the merits of that suspension to you directly. the permit encroachment that is before you, we were informed by mr. zaretzky that there would be a hearing on this matter and i contacted the department of public works and requested they not ta

to correction territory today. so what happened? a weak report about manufacturing activity in the u.s. worried investors, adding to the anxiety china reporting that its factory sector is also not growing much. that was enough to push the major averages down 2% or more in one of the most volatile days in trading in switch months. here are the closing numbers on wall street. the dow plunged 326 points, that's a 2% decline. the blue chip average is down 7% for 2014. the nasdaq tumbled nearly 107 points, closing below the key 4,000 mark for the first time since december of last year. and the s&p lost 40 points with all ten of its sectors in the red. in the bond market, prices rose and yields fell. the yield on the ten-year note dropping below 2.6%. bob has more on what stocks and sectors were hit the hardest today, and the mood of traders at the new york stock exchange. >> reporter: stocks sold off today with the dow closing at a 3.5 month low. the market started to the downside but it took another leg down in the lat

>> correct. >> the practical difficulty is the retaining wall and we are unable to follow the law in our understanding that a 6-foot fence is what's typically allowed by the planning code. this is why a variance is required for a property like ours. here the appellants arguments is what is necessary to the security. the fact that the building code that is determined to provide home owners with security and privacy. unfortunately we are not able to apply that code guarantees based on the prototype and the current variance is best we are able to do. >> sorry, i hope your time gets stopped every time i ask a question. i want to follow your argument. can i see that illustration again. the 6-foot fence is something you cannot do bought baus of the 6-foot fence. >> you wouldn't, we are referring to the planning code which we understand allows for the construction of a 6-foot fence on someone's property. >> okay, the neighbor could build it because there is no retaining wall and it would go above the gr

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is that correct? >> correct. a lot of those are exempt under different provisions of the internal revenue code. in that regard and with regard to the questioning aspect of this and the chilling effect which i think is what you're going after, we have a client, pro life organization that is one of the ones targetsed. the questions to them were so draconian in nature, this is what they asked. talking about the client's pro life position, this is the irs. the presentation of viewpoints or positions are unsupported by facts is a significant portion of the organization's communications. the facts that pro purport to support the viewpoint or positions are distorted. this is from an irs agent. you make substantial use of inflammatory and disparaging terms and express concerns more on the basis of strong emotional feelings than objective evaluations. the approached used in the organization's presentation is not aimed at developing an understanding on the part of the intended audience or read ship because it does not cons

is that correct? >> that is correct mr. chair. >> so we can't collect taxes owing for those folks which is what the heart of the problem is that this hearing. its tax collection. one of your bank's former clients admitted to tax evasion told us about opening an account at credit suisse and he referred to the account holder as client one in our report. client one is an american citizen who when he opened the account in credit suisse main office in zÜrich provided a u.s. passport and driver's license and second of haitian so it made it obvious he was an american. he told the subcommittee that the swiss banker expressly told him that a w. nine form which identifies u.s. accounts and leads most importantly to the account being reported to the irs. that banker told client one that it -- this form was required by the united states and not required by credit suisse to open an account. so you open an account without the w-9 and there was no disclosure and later on the client entered into a disclosure program. would you agree that t

and involuntariary and the home detention in lieu of confinement and it is the subsection is the correctional administrator will have the sole authority to admit program participation as alternative to physical custody and other subsection is no public agency or entity may operate a home detention program in any county without a written contract with the county's correctional administrator. the new law that is within this state the 1203.018, we had introduced this legislation, to the city attorney's office and to the adult probation department, many, many months ago and so that we can remain consistent and that we can form and comport with the state law. 018 which is not in books currently and we are proposing that it does to this legislation, provides for the inmates to participate in a monitoring program, if specified conditions are met, no holes or warrants in custody for 30 days in the misdemeanor be 60 days or a felony, consistent with public safety concerns of the community. it also through thize of this body the board of supervisors, requires us to cult with the district attorney and s

>> correct. >> this is the view where the fence is now. it will go where my finger is. it will drop down to about there based on the variance. >> it will go lower. >> even now we have taken multiple photos and scanned at four 1/2 feet tall. you see roof tops. i believe the zoning administrator. >> for you? >> it was security and privacy. now it's more of a privacy thing because it still impedes sidelines because you can't see the decks on the property. i'm not sure it provides the security we intended. >> okay. thank you. mr. sanchez? >>> i have one question. the appellant is speaking on behalf of 25 people. that it should be on the 7-minute component and 3-minute rebuttal. if the people that are here speaking for the appellant would state they are part of that briefing creation and they do not get additional time from public statement standpoint. would that be correct? >> if that's correct, they are not officially aligned with the appellant. >> he mentioned in his brief that it was complying wit

>> correct, with the bullets. not identify or eliminate the bullets. >> you didn't use the same ammo but all the ammo you could find, isn't that true? >> i believe i used the same type. i used the same type of ammo. i used winchester ammunition but i used a full metal jacket and not a jacket at hallowed point like the one here. >> so the answer is, yes, you did not use the same ammo? >> sure. i chose to useful metal jacket because when you fire it, it stays together nicely, stays in pristine condition. a lot of times when you fire the jacket at hal lollow point, tha will expand and that might cover up the marks i want to see. you usually get the same type of mark. your typically going to get the same type of marks. >> you didn't too that. it didn't happen? >> no. i used the full metal. >> you couldn't identify it? >> correct. >> you couldn't identify the markings or the stripeings? >> i found the test didn't mark well as well as the evidence bullets weren't well marked. there wasn't much information on the bullets

am i correct in that? >> correct. >> you served as a legislator in oklahoma, am i correct? >> correct. >> would that be as a republican legislator? >> no. actually i was a democrat that, until i realized that would become the government of the government and not the people. >> mr. cartwright, just for the record, not all of us would agree with that. we're entitled to our political views, too. >> thank you, mr. connolly. the question i have for you, in your law practice, your political law practice, how many progressive groups do you represent right now? >> none, because it doesn't work that way. >> how many liberal groups? >> it doesn't work that way. it doesn't work that way, congressman. >> you testified that you represent tea party groups? >> i do. >> so it works that way. >> that's right. as i say to people, in this law practice, you can't play for usc and notre dame. you have to pick a team. >> how many occupy groups do you represent? >> i wouldn't represent one of them on a bed. >> i've represented the aclu however, mr. cartwright. >> in light of that members and sta

you had the correctional officers telling them what to do.everyone's yelling and screaming and it was intense. >> when the yard officer tells you to get up, then you can get up. until then you don't move. >> get up. >> get up. >> back in the order you were at. >> there were a couple kids that were shaking. it wasn't the field trip they thought it was going to be. >> i'll get you something. >> feeling a little sick. >> oh, okay. >> the next stop does nothing to calm nerves. the prison gymnasium has been converted into a dorm because of overcrowding. >> all right. this is a housing unit. in other words, if you get in trouble out in the streets, they will find a spot for you to live. notice, when we went down there, there was a gunner on the yard. there's also a gunner in here. they shoot real bullets. it ain't easy being in this mother [ bleep ] gym. whether it be over phone calls, showers, [ bleep ], whatever it is, it's a problem in here. when you spend 365 days in this mother [ bleep ], you'll be stressed out. believe that! >> don't never co

also in correction territory. you want to play in this market, check out the ewj, one of japan's most liquid etfs. another market that is already in correction territory is russia. olympics are coming up but the stock market down 10% year-to-date. rsx is the etf to look at. that tracks that market. there rls a lot of countries which we are calling correction watch countries. so a country like turkey, for example, down 8% year-to-date, also brazil and chile. right now, just a stone's throw away from that all important correction territory. we do have the etfs as well. the brazilian etf is ewz. for chile, eca. here's the thing with these markets. yes, they are in correction territory but remember, these are all story driven markets. there is something specific happening in each of these countries which is really driving the move. of course, the big question is are these stories from these emerging markets going to make their way here in the u.s., are we going to start to feel that contagion effect. the million dolla

if it is not corrected, usually the directors orders is final. meaning if the operator or the owner of the property did not cooperate, the department of public health can order a summary abatement. this results into a vacation order especially in sro's. the hearing officer council issues a fine of up to $1,000 by day that the violation remains uncorrected. if there is on going uncompliance, the case maybe referred to the city attorneys office. i want to specify here that many of our cases as soon as we discover that a specific issue is not going to be corrected within the time specified, especially in sro hotels, we've worked out a very good working relationship with aps. where by we refer cases to aps to provide early intervention. >>supervisor scott weiner: in terms of as i mentioned before a severe hoarder situation. i was very frustrated with this situation. dph the process got stuck and we were dealing with alternative housing and were told that department of public health was addressing the situation and it didn't happen. the housing and db

>> correct. the solution is that it matches the existing guardrail. >> the other fence that was built without a permit is where? >> there is a property at 278 upper you terrace. this was mentioned. a notice of violation has been issued. i have been in contact with that property owner and they did provide materials last week which i have not been able to respond to them. the question is did they have the same condition with regards to the retaining wall. thoos >> this is one in the photo? >> correct. that was constructed without permit prior to this fence. >> on planning 3 which was hiementd -- highlighted by the appellant, the necessity of having this fence that is variance, can you address that point? >> certainly. >> i think commissioner fung was talking about the rights of the adjacent property. >> finding no. 3 of the variances that such variance is necessary for the substantial of the property rights provided in the same class. it's not speaking to the neighbors. >> but necessary determinati

>> that is correct.s it relates to american, there's obviously been a lot of consolidation in the industry, so the capacity addition was quite modest. there are elements of pricing power in the different business models that they have in place. fuel remains supportive, and in general what i would say is that there's a lot of operational leverage which will lead to significant improvement in profitability and it's not unique to american airlines. it's common in the u.s. industry and to some extent common in the european industry as well. >> and we'll get to the financials in a second. charlie, what about you? you look at the sell-off here and are you using this opportunity to pick up some names on the cheap? >> we tend not to worry too much about short-term moves. this is a 5% move, it's not a big deal but we have looked at sector that is have been left behind and stocks that have been left behind and there were some high quality energy names in particular. nov is a leader in drilling equipment, floating

would that be correct? >> i think maybe just the resolution by compliant plans. >> stop work is removed. >> so it's really relating to the suspension of the permits. there are several permits suspended. until that matter is resolved? >> that sounds good. >> do you have a question about the process? if you do, come to the microphone. i will entertain a process related question. i don't want to hear further argument. >> can i say concern? is that every ounce of ability for irving to appeal anything will be and if you don't let this go through, it's just going to prolong. >> okay. i understand. >> i don't mean to argue. the ground level is not going to change. there is nothing that will change with this driveway. >> okay, you are making an argument. >> i'm trying not to make an argument. >> i understand that it up sets you that we are going to continue this and the process prolong, but we've got an issue that we heard about with respect, and maybe it will be resolved quickly and then we can proceed. okay? >> o

is that correct? >> correct. a lot of those are exempt under different provisions of the internal revenue code. in that regard and with regard to the questioning aspect of this and the chilling effect which i think is what you're going after, we have a client, pro life organization that is one of the ones targetsed. the questions to them were so draconian in nature, this is what they asked. talking about the client's pro life position, this is the irs. the presentation of viewpoints or positions are unsupported by facts is a significant portion of the organization's communications. the facts that pro purport to support the viewpoint or positions are distorted. this is from an irs agent. you make substantial use of inflammatory and disparaging terms and express concerns more on the basis of strong emotional feelings than objective evaluations. the approached used in the organization's presentation is not aimed at developing an understanding on the part of the intended audience or read ship because it does not cons

>> i have a correction. at page 2, of the minutes, and in regard to the discussions relating to miss ellis, the third full paragraph down, where it states an unidentified member of the public stated that miss ellis caused many problems if her community of bay view hunter's point shs she stated that her community does in the receive any benefit and that mis ellis should not have become an administrator, my correction would be to that last sentence, she thought that miss ellis would be good for the community, the lady did not say that. everything that she said was critical of miss ellis, so they definitely did not make the statement that she thought that miss ellis would be good for the community. >> if i recall i believe that they said when she was new she thought that she would be good for the community but it turned out not to be that way. >> the way that it is characterized here it has her making a statement saying that they thought that she thought she would be good for the community. >> i agree. >> that

is here to help conclude what has been an on going negotiation with the california department of corrections rehabilitation. cdcr for the last 2 years. this is a first for the state of california for any county sheriff's department and adult probation to collaborate and partner up on what we are referring to is a pilot project in the eyes of the state known as the creation of the reentry pod. the work of the chief within our department in our efforts in sacramento has resulted into this nearly $4.2 million contract by the state for us to attend to the ab 109 realignment population in a way that no other county has, but we expect because of the funding mechanisms on how they have predicated with this program as is already begun in a small way without any funding that we expect other counties to follow suit. this was unofficially nag rated 1 year ago today. but because of the bureaucracy of the state, it has taken us a little bit of time to navigate through those fine lines through state and municipality to get where we are before you. just one thing i wanted to point out to you is that seven

a corrections officer offered to hold it in place for our camera.t another california prison, one inmate's artwork is either immediately confiscated and destroyed or kept in a secured location. the inmate is charles manson. >> we have some manson memorabilia that charles manson has created since he's been incarcerated here at corcoran. >> during one of our shoots at california state prison corcoran, our crew barely got a glimpse of manson before he covered up his window. a recent mug shot shows how much he has aged since first coming to prison in 1971. but his artwork provides a unique insight into his life behind bars. >> here a scorpion that he's made. basically just taking thread from various types of items, socks and t-shirts and towels, and he creates it and uses -- looks like a marker to color it. this is probably one of the items that he makes the most of would be scorpions and spiders. this is, i would, assume something like a harp, and he's made it out of toilet paper and newspaper. this looks like some dental floss, a small stick, and prob

>> yes, sir, at county correctional facility. >> how long did you work in the canteen?, sir. >> did you have any problems while you were doing it? >> no, sir, no problem. >> you will be working with staff directly. it is a good job. you need to have the appropriate mannerisms. >> yes, sir. >> do you have any questions about the job? >> no, sir. >> you understand this is cash money. >> yes, sir. >> so, you will be held very responsible for this. >> yes, sir. >> and you understand the part about interacting with staff, and you understand that you have to keep that relation sheep a certain level and not let it go beyond that? >> yes, sir. >> not start feeling like, you know, you've got any friends or things like that and get yourself crossed up? >> yes, sir. >> good. >> it's a very monitored job, so you can't be a penny off. we're going to be able to tell with that. >> yes, sir. >> all right, you're going to make a job change. continue to do a good job. you have done a good job since you have been here. continue to do a good job. okay? >> yes, sir. >> watch the callout for

and again, the two primary correctional administrators but for our population is the sheriff's department and then for a post release, adult probation, but we are just talking about our population. >> so, if you were consulting with others, and they disagree what happens? >> we can take it to the court. >> certainly. >> we can take it to the court, sure. >> we will be back with the monitoring piece, is there a ratio of how many staff members that you need to monitor, the number of people that would be electronic system. but we have a full time of three shifts of people a day from the sheriff's deputies but it would not require, and you have 300 now and all of a sudden you have 600 and you have to monitor to have more stop to monitor the 600. it could suggest that and this is an issue of public safety. and we want to be sure that it is enhanced and the fact that the criteria and the courts and the da that it is applicable to this person, and likely that that person is not going to run afoul. and as a matter of fact, i will give you a statistic out of the people who were evaluated for elect

the correctional officers are the backbone of the facility.hey're the ones dealing with the offenders on a daily basis. they are frontline. >> i've been hearing about the correction setting since i was 8 years old. i grew up around it. so coming in here was actually kind of easy for me. i already knew what to expect. i've heard all the war stories. >> officer jared mcmillin has been on the frontline at wabash for four years now. the war stories have come from his mother and father, both of whom are also on wabash's corrections staff. >> it's the kind of environment that you don't want everybody in. i wouldn't let my daughter come here. but she's not meant for this. he's a little tougher. and my wife is real tough. so they can handle it. >> but the younger officer mcmillin was recently put to the test. as he was escorting one inmate to his cell in the confinement unit, another inmate unleashed a vile attack. >> he stuck his arm out with an arm full of feces and urine and started flinging it everywhere, the other inmate. i had it on my face, my

seven corrections officers were stabbed. two others and a counselor were held hostage for 15 hours. >> it was a pretty massive riot that they had at that time and chris trotter was one of the main players in that. and since then, trotter has done his share to maintain his image of that. >> trotter has maintained that he was defending another inmate from abusive staff. >> some of them were stabbed but some of them were beat up. some of them went to the court and overexaggerated their wounds. >> the judge in trotter's case saw nothing to laugh about. >> i was found guilty of one count of attempted murder, one battery, four counts of criminal defilement and one count of rioting. and i was sentenced to 142 years. and was like, wow. most violence is spontaneous. that's what that was. it was spontaneous. one incident led to something else led to something else led to something else but it is never the solution. >> trotter has now been in prison for 26 years 73 due to his role in the riot and other disciplinary problems, he has spe

it really is 1988 is what the rated versus unrated beds are in the state board of corrections what is viewed in terms of our bedding accommodation housing is 1188. i don't want to give the impression that we have 200 extra beds when they are not legitimized in the eyes of the state board of correction. that's no. 1. no. 2 is, mr. rose is correct on the question of 24 inmates maybe the average as it's calibrated to the current ab 109 population could be prcs's that are coming to us. that is gauged on a 60-day level up to 60 days with the reentry pod. i quite agree with what chief had mentioned that because of the impending recalculation of ab 109 and the pod decision of new inmates coming back to us, the impact of our work in the reentry pod could go much further than for someone staying with us for 60 days which is why we do amend page two line 19 of the resolution a line insertion recommended by officer chief steel up to 365 days it's consistent what governor brown is pushing for and within the authority of the sheriff to push for that population. it very well means that our populati

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he doesn't even have correct grammar.spell, but yet he wants to be derogatory and race racist. and that's the kind of stuff we have to deal with when we're doing our job. we didn't ask for them to come here. they're not on vacation. they're not at the ra ma'm rama. i'm doing my job. if they don't like it, they shouldn't come. >> been here a couple months getting more familiar with things and getting used to the inmates and things like that, you know, building a relationship with everybody. >> after months of training, cadet hardy has finally become correctional officer hardy. >> i've been working a lot of overtime. the way the overtime system works is you have to cover whole other shift. so, we'll work 16 hours whenever we do. today i came in at 2:00 p.m. and i won't get off until 6:00 a.m. in the morning. so it's a long ride, especially when you have to go home and still spend time with your family and things like that. but the money is good. that's what's appealing to you and you want to do it. it can get overwhelming.

>> that's correct. >> she was upset? >> that's correct. >> she didn't go into the room, right? she was sitting up on the elevator. >> she went into the room to change, and then we went out to the club room. >> right. and she -- as she testified, was waiting for the police to come, right? >> well, we were waiting for the red suv to come. now, that's what i was waiting for. i couldn't tell you what she was waiting for. but that was what -- that was the sentiment that i understood that she was waiting for. retaliation. >> okay. we'll get back to that. the suv. how many times during that time did you tell her they had a gun? >> i don't think we discussed it, because we were in a public area. >> okay. well, you did go back to your room, correct? >> i'm talking about in the club room. >> i understand. now i'm talking about you go back to your room, right? >> right. >> she was still a wreck. >> yes, she was. >> okay. tell the members of the jury how many times you said to her, "they had a gun." >> at least once. >> and when she woke up, she heard that somebody had been killed, right?

i think we still got a little bit more to go on our correction, but i think this correction was needed and long overdo, and i think there are some real opportunities out there right now. >> meanwhile, the dow is up 154 at the high. rick santelli, have we set it up for you on this one. is the treasury market the only investment class that actually paid attention to that jobs report this morning? >> i think so, but i think our panelists gave us a lot of clues as to the problem. the first, the last gentleman said a jobless recovery. he's right. and then dani hughes said, well, the government doesn't make it easy to hire, but yet they're both bullish stocks. here is the problem is that i can understand a jobless recovery and i can understand a globalization process, but we don't need to hire people and still have some companies doing better. but in the end the government is the issue. the government can't deal with all this joblessness and their corrective measures will end up eating through all the dynamics that make it possible to be bullish the stock market under that scenario. the seco

so noted >> commissioners any other corrections, notes. any member of the public have any information regarding the members or alternates. seeing none, public comment is closed. >> i move to approve the minutes with the correction. >> thank you. on that motion to adapt the minutes as adapted commissioner hyland. commissioner johnck. commissioner johns. commissioner pearlman. commissioner wolfram and president hasz. so moved, commissioners, that passes unanimously 7 to zero and palace you under commissioners comments and questions >> i want to see on a future meeting for the agenda. >> we can accept anything on the agenda. >> it's the last item in the group that we put on the agenda for future hearing a discussion will state tax credits the district tax credits and what we can do to help support speak maybe get someone from the commission to talk about that. >> commissioner johns. every year the san francisco museum and historical society how old a history expo usually we get 30 hundred or more people to come and see an assembly of delays t