john indian the slave of reverend parris and interestingly enough, judge jonathan corwin's son. and there's an odd pre-trial hearing where judge hathorn is saying to the accused, why did you afflict judge corwin's son? that tells you of a different legal situation in 1692. but having said that, too, that's just the things that you see on the specials on sale and with the girls writhing on the floor which is a bit overdramatic. in fact, most of the accusations in salem 1692 were more traditional accusations of witchcraft by men, by women throughout the community. testifying to the use of image magic, knowledge, the ability to harm people, causing livestock to die, causing cows to stop producing milk. kind of more run of the mill things rather than signing a covenant with satan and killing people with his magic. so the affliction and the afflicted girls weren't just girls and the people who were making accusations in salem, i think it's close to 200 people who end up making a complaint or testify in some way in salem in 1692. it is a broad circle. and again, people have lots of th

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corwin call davis's opinion fustian. it was childish to think it was a precedent in times of crisis, lincoln's actual example. to understand what has happened to milligan, one has to recognize a basic irony. milligan articulated the general principle of government rulings as well as rules, that constitutional protection was not suspended by the war but the specific holding established a very rigid rule for a very particular circumstance. it specified that american citizens who were not themselves combatants could not be tried by military commissions when ordinary courts were available, open and unobstructed. it did not apply, for example, to american indians, tribes violating the rule als of war on combat against american troops. it did not apply to filipinos fighting against the war there. it did not involve american citizens when ordinary courts were open. it was natural in 1920 congress authorized military commissions to try violations of the laws of war. in ex parte kuirtin, tsupreme court made the limitations of the

displace the ok gene i wasn't listening or that i was listening jerry corwin of course was always against the iraq war once tony blair to face justice he was under surveillance himself and i don't know what he's going to think of this story you got from the guardian media group newspaper jeremy called we might be even slightly surprised faces a bit of the observer which supported the iraq war by the way but anyway you know you're a bit of a rock wall roll today god is taking a different approach a got rid of it and there's some people do say that of comprehending undercover police spied on more than a thousand political groups in the u.k. the least surprising story of the day i think thousand political groups but we secret police force we known for years that this has been going on i suppose the numbers are quite surprising these fake spooks if you like ours and they've got fake identities i've traded various groups and the racist groups animal rights groups left wing parties they're obviously dangerous for the country and the far right across five years these people went undercover for f

i served in the military in the balkans, i saw places where people bodies worse deck like corwin becauseeople worshiped on different days of the week. these white nationalist or whatever they are or not who i believe america is supposed to be. i respect their right to speak, they don't have any right to perpetrate violence other fellow citizens. there's no defending that. i want to absolutely. >> kelly: i really want to ask you quickly, something else the president got into an you're talking about it, he didn't pick sides. he said it's not donald trump is not barack obama, to me, my frame of thinking, he nailed it right there saying it's not about the former president of this president, it's been going on long time. and something has to be done. so he is stepping out firmly fuel to say this is got to stop and we have to learn how to get along. >> there's lots of people who agree with me on issues and why disagree with that who i love and embrace. and to dissent from whatever opinion, that's who we are as a country but this is in. i want to give praise to the charlottesville mayor for his

proposition because, again, probably ted cruz is here, and senator, thank you very much, senator corwinters over here, and i think we'll come through with the right solution. but probably there's never been anything so expensive in our country's history, there's never been anything so historic in terms of damage and in terms of ferocity with what we witnessed with harvey. sounds like such an innocent name band, right, but it's not innocent. i also want to thank my people. ben carson, as you know, is here from hud. and linda mcmann from small business. i say this is not small business, linda, this is big business. when you add it all up, you'll be giving away many millions of dollars to help people out. and tom price, as you know, you have your people in the field, tom. you may say a couple of words and then i'll ask linda and i'll ask ben, and then i think we get on to nim and brock and everybody. tom? >> as you said, this is a historic proportion storm and flood. the challenge we have is to get resources to individuals who are stranded right now, make sure evacuees have a place to go.

one spot truly associated with the trials is the home of judge corwin, though even that building has been substantially altered from its 17th century form. as robert weir notes, one couldn't actually see much in salem other than gazing upon markers, noting where certain buildings once stood. the lack of extant structures or single museum responsible for telling the history of the witch trials has left the telling that important narrative to a diverse set of sites that range from attractions to more serious attempts at historical inquiry. still, public history studies indicate in the absence of material culture connections, the actual events of 1692 have likely been overwhelmed by other parts of the tourist landscape. in this way, the public history of the witch trials is similar to the public history of slavery. just as slavery has been subordinated to a more marketable and visible "gone with the wind" narrative in plantation museums across the american south, the history of 1692 has become subordinated to a more general celebration of the macabre in salem. sites such as dracula's ca

and this is jonathan corwin's account, and if we zoom in here, i saw two cats, one red, another black. what did these cats do? you could see that curve, cats. definitely cats. i'm going, two guys at the same time, one said cat, one said rat. did they just hear it differently? you know, how do we resolve this? a lot of people have then said she saw cats and rats. let's take a look alt this. is it cat or rat? and say it kind of looks like rat, doesn't it? until you look at some of these other things. the devil became to me. the child -- i don't know how to pronounce that with an "r." these are unambiguous instances of the letter and unambiguous "cs." so he was hearing cats. there are no rats at all, but there are all these transcriptions out here that say rats. we also encountered some other things. this is a piece from thomas putnam's handwriting and the traditional transcription of this is on the 15th may 1692. and i looked at it and went, i have seen a calendar, the 15th of may was a sunday. why would they do an examination on a sunday? they have better things to do. and then i looke