there's cory booker.ct now, given up on negotiations with tim scott, saying he will not give up. for those of you who don't want to give up, what's your next move? >> i agree with him 100%. i will not give up either. i have been fighting for police reform for many, many years. what we have decided to do is to call on the biden administration and to ask them to use all of the powers at their disposal to continue to move the needle forward. and so, we have to continue and the legislative side and continue to try to put at least minimum reforms into law. but the bottom line was we just couldn't seem to get senator scott to yes. now, granted there were a lot of pressure from outside forces. but i think the other thing is we might have missed our moment. i think our best moment was when there were 10s of thousands of people on the street in every state in our country and many countries around the world demanding the change takes place. but you know lawrence, the senate kind of moves a little slow. and i think

today, new jersey senator cory booker seems to be the senate's leading optimist. smile. this year's example of that is senator booker's long and winding road of negotiations with republican senator tim scott over police reform legislation in the aftermath of the murder of george floyd. he insisted that he and other republicans were really ready to write a bipartisan police reform bill. many observers said that would never happen. but cory booker is not an observer. he is an optimist. he went to work with senator scott. and long after anyone else would have given up, senator cory booker held on and kept negotiating as republicans kept moving further from an agreement. and today senator booker said his negotiation with senator scott has come to an end. here is what senator booker said in an exchange with reporters, near the senate florida, where cameras are not allowed. >> i had a quick conversation with tim scott. we weren't making progress. it was clear that we were not making the progress that we needed to give america would i think the largest civil rights protes

senator bernie saners chairman of the budget committee, ron wyden chairman of the finance committee, cory booker, patty murray, brian schatz the house members attending the meeting of the liberal groups were congresswoman pramila jayapal, congressmen jim mcgovern the chair of the rules committee,

behind the scenes over the last six months rave -- people in the trump administration -- rave about cory bookerhat. and what does he get? he gets a slap in the face and a lie saying that he wants to defund the police. >> well, i understand senator booker's orientation in this regard because he has to work -- >> and i respect him for it. i totally respect him for it. it's still shocking. >> i love him for it. >> amen. >> this is an example of bad faith. and this is what makes bipartisanship so difficult. cory, senator booker, so great to lay eyes on you this morning. i want to ask you this question, though. what does it mean that we're not delivering again? so there's the question around $15 minimum wage, the question around fundamentally addressing police reform. what does it mean that the democratic party seems to be in this moment not delivering again because we invested in bipartisanship again? >> right. so i sat in the white house yesterday and watched animated president talk to me about racial justice, which was something -- eddie, you and i have had this conversation -- so delightful i'm

forward with these bills at this time. >>> joining me is the democratic senator from new jersey, cory booker. senator booker, welcome back to "meet the press." >> it's great to be back on. >> good to have you in person. we're getting there. john podesta earlier this week wrote a memo -- basically sending a memo to both sides of this argument, moderates and progressives, you're going to have to come together. to progressives you'll going to have to face the reality that $3.5 trillion has to be pared back. do you concur? >> first of all, i don't like how this has been compared, progressives versus moderates. this is joe biden's bill. as he said in the oval office, i've never been a progressive. this is about seizing what is a once-in-a-generation opportunity, like those who built the canals and the railroads, like those who built the incredible eisenhower highway act. if we miss this opportunity, every dollar we shrink it is a dollar not invested in our future which is unfortunate. so how this plays out, yeah, this is washington. i'm sure there's going to be some kind of compromise, but to me,

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joining us now, one of the lead negotiators, new jersey democratic senator cory booker. good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> it's great and jake we want to talk about policing, but i'm sitting here kind of stunned, and you said it, i just want to make the point. spending, $8 trillion of debt. the debt ceiling raise is all about money donald trump spent to give the biggest tax cuts that i've seen in my lifetime so the wealthiest of wealthy, corporations and billionaires. >> as well as middle class people. 65% of the tax break went to the top 10%. joe biden's given the biggest middle class tax rate with the child tax rate. this is math. it's not complicated. people who voted for it, suddenly i'm not going to raise the debt ceiling on debt that we supported is to me it's a kabuki theater that frustrates a lot of folks. what's happening tomorrow, monday, continuing to run the government and raise the debt ceiling is something under donald trump, i voted under donald trump to raise the debt ceiling three times. even my friend, a gentleman, senator toomey wrote in "the w

per mill lagiapol and moderate josh gottheimer and cory booker join me. "it's horrible, president biden rebewkes his own border patrol for confronting migrants at the border." but what about biden's larger immigration policy? i'll speak with homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas next. >>> plus, democracy at risk? a sham audit in arizona reaffirms biden's victory. state gop officials continue to push the big lie that fueled the insurrection with former president trump more popular to his base than ever. republican senator pat toomey who voted to impeach former president trump joins me ahead. >>> hello i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of the union is wondering if today's democrats will prove they can govern. this is the most important legislative week of biden's legacy. in a letter to house democrats saturday, house speaker nancy pelosi said "the next few days will be a time of intensity" telling her party that they must fund the government, pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill, pass a $3.5 trillion spending bill this week. tomorrow

senator cory booker who was the democratic lead in those negotiations explaining it this way.e weren't making any more meaningful progress on meaningful substantive reform. >> we haven't swept the table, but i understand that politics is often a game of incremental changes. >> in a statement, republican senator tim scott accused democrats of taking a partisan approach, writing, quote, despite having plenty of agreement, democrats said no because they cot not let go of their push to defund our law enforcement. the final option of the bill left out more contentious clauses such as qualified immunity. joining me to discuss where we go from here, carmen best and law enforcement analyst brittany pat nick cunningham is with us, host of the podcast undistracted and msnbc contributor. let me start with this. he was not asking to defund the police. having said that, you were part of barack obama's task force on 21stst century policing. you have a deep understanding of how these go. were you disappointed? were you surprised? do you think it can go somewhere from here? give me a take on

and you would have a meeting with cory booker?one? >> definitely. i think the most important thing is being creative in the way we will advocate for what we believe in. part of the reason why i believe that more organizers and activists need to be elected is because when we come in, we will obviously work within the system and work to get laws passed. but on top of that, when we are working as an organizer, you have to be creative. i remember when i first started with march for our lives, a group of students and i went to virginia to go lobby and speak with legislators about passing gun reform. but we were cut short because there were thousands of armed protesters outside the virginia capital. even some of them causing death threats to us. so we got creative and we found some representatives that let us sleep overnight in the building and we actually came with 13 students the night before. we woke up in the morning and lobbied and with the help of organizations across virginia, sweeping gun reform was passed. and so we have to be

and i thought that they were very close together, democrats and republicans, tim scott and cory booker issues and there was this one issue of so-called qualified immunity that democrats wanted to get rid of and republicans wanted to preserve. and that that was what was left in this dispute. what do you understand about qualified immunity and why this is such a problem to come to a bipartisan agreement on? >> good morning, ali. good to see you again, too. so since the murder of george floyd at the knee of derek chauvin, the people in this country have been looking for transparency and accountability. they want to see transformation in policing. this is not transformation at this point and qualified immunity does play a great role because it is a way to hold police officers individually accountable for the things that they are involved in, for the misconduct. and that was taken off the table weeks ago, though. and, you know, it just boggles my mind that you would have police groups, especially, say we don't -- we don't want to take that off the table. why would that be the case? that's a

what would you hope to bring to that to cory booker, if you were to be sworn in to the next congressr, what's the first thing you're hoping that the two of you can get done? >> definitely. i think the most important thing is first off being creative in the way that we're going to advocate for what we believe in. part of the reason why i believe that more organizers and activists need to be elected to office is because when we come in, we're obviously going to work within the system, work to get legislation passed, but on top that, when you're working as an organizer, you have to be creative about things. i remember when i first started with march for our lives, a group of students and i went to virginia to go lobby and speak with legislators about passing sweeping gun reform, but we were cut a little bit short because there were thousands of armed protesters outside of the virginia capitol even some of them causing death threats to us. and so we got creative. we found some representatives that let us sleep over night in that capitol and we actually came with about 13 students the nig

let's discuss with democratic senator cory booker of new jersey.ou give us an update on where things stand tonight? >> i mean, wolf, it's tragic. we've seen as you've said the floodwater, the rape, tornado hit our state in a way that i cannot remember happening. we death records in my city. never seen something like that and the death toll in our state alone has risen to 23 peep. not to mention what is going to be hundreds of billions worth of property damming. it's a wretched moment in the state owes history and i've about out the phone with local layers and the was a mayor and haerpgt stories and the that will earnings that folks are going to face. families coming out of likes like that to recover and dole with all the klatt real damages. this is a really sad day at our region at a time that america is kufrg. fresh -- i think that speaks to the urgesy for all of us as americans, because i've seen the flooding and the hurricanes hit florida. we are stitt back and deplore the reality or we can tin to take more significant ac. i talked to chuck schu

cory booker made that clear in a private conversation with republican, tim scott. jessica dean is on capitol hill. j so, what ended? >> well, at this point, we're told it wasn't one major issue, but just a variety of issues. in fact, congresswoman karen bass telling my colleague just moments ago that it really came down to when they had been meeting with cory booker and he had been meeting with the fraternal order of police and with the sheriff, sorry, the chief of police union and they had come to a deal, but that is when scott backed out of that deal and that's when things went awry. but again, we know in following months and months of this, i've been here for all of these minutes and these moments, that they were very close to a deal. and it suddenly just fell apart. that they had tried to bridge the gap on things like qualified immunity and various topics, but they just could not do it and now we know that these talks have broken down without a deal in place. now here's what senator booker said in a statement a few moments ago. he said unfortunately, even with

they move a few inches towards something that might be acceptable but in the end, cory booker the senateongresswoman, karen bass on the democratic side were extremely flexible and extremely -- working extremely hard just to bring the republicans to just a minimal acceptable place where some actual reform could happen and they couldn't. so, it's up to the justice department now, as you said and as they continue their pattern and practice investigations of police departments in their interventions there, that's basically what we're left with at this point. >> peter baker, back over to the white house. compared to our -- it turns out fatal exit strategy from afghanistan, compared to the diplomacy speak of pissing off the french, where does the debt ceiling rank in terms of the problems joe biden is looking at? >> well, look, the debt ceiling is a more immediate crisis at this point. if they were to fail to pass it, as you wrote about the study written about by the "washington post," it would be economic consequences of a great and enormous damage to the country. that's a higher priority, i

but today the lead negotiator and the senate that would be cory booker, democrat of new jersey, tim scott republican of south carolina, well they announced they would be no deal. white house said they would look for other world to hold our nations police department more accountable. but as the wall street journal points out tonight, and i quote without legislation the administration is relying largely on the justice department in its efforts to change american policing. >> meanwhile the pandemic continues you know the stats we've been losing just north of 2000 souls a day. most of the estimates are 95% or so of the patients in icu beds are unvaccinated in the hardest hit states. today, during a virtual global summit on the virus, the president announced the u.s. will donate half a billion doses of the pfizer vaccine to other countries around the world. with that, let's bring in our stellar starting line on this wednesday night peter baker veteran and our chief white house correspondent for the new york times, claire mccaskill former democratic senator from the great state of emergency, eu

jillian: let's take a listen to what cory booker has to say on using leverage to get this done now. > mothers are looking for affordable childcare, america's looking for lower-cost prescription drugs, to leave people like that on the wayside and families that need the child tax credit to leave those folks on the wayside is unacceptable. i see the best of intentions and i want a real more guarantee, when you have the leverage use of leverage as long as it's not about partisanship. jillian: your reaction. >> they need to pay a price for that what about the people on fixed incomes pay an inflationary on everything. what about the national disasters for small businesses taking place, is to worldviews, cory booker and nancy pelosi think the money is theirs, where is the return on investment: 28 trillion in debt and they are simply out of touch with reality their professional politicians and hopefully the midterms pay a price for that. jillian: we want to ask you about this really quick, mark milley is set to testify on tuesday on the u.s. withdraw from afghanistan. if you are to be asking

new jersey senator cory booker said the talks were going nowhere. biden and french president emmanuel macron have agreed to meet next month, to smooth tensions between the two governments. they center on australia's decision to buy u.s. submarines and cancel a deal with france. the two presidents spoke by phone today. macron also agreed to send the french ambassador back to washington. there is word that large numbers of haitian migrants are being released into the u.s. the biden administration had said they faced mediate expulsion. instead, the associated press reports that many have been told to report to immigration offices within 60 days. white house press secretary jen psaki suggested today, there aren't enough available planes for quick deportations. >> there are a range of flights, as you know, going to different parts of the world, depending, and those are in process. so if we're not-- if there isn't a flight ready yet, those individuals may be placed in alteatives to detention. >> woodruff: by some estimates, the camp at del rio, texas held

what's half way between 1.5 and 3.5, right in maybe that 2.5 that cory booker said is a sweet spot. let me move over to peter alexander. don't go anywhere because i have a krysten sinema question next. let me finish up this manchin conversation. peter, what is the biden white house wanting today? how badly do they want this infrastructure bill? because it doesn't seem as if everybody is on the same page of -- nobody is quite sure when the white house wants this bipartisan infrastructure bill passed. do they want it passed today or not? >> it is a good question. we've been keeping our eyes on what they call west exec the driveway alongside the white house to see if the secret service and others are gathering in case there could be a trip to capitol hill where he could kind of either close here but there doesn't appear to be anything closing on right now given all the differences we've seen within the democratic party and as it relates to the conversation about joe manchin's number the white house has not yet commented on that. they say they're not getting involved in conversations be

today cory booker called his republican counter parts south carolina senator tim scott and said theyfficer. here is senator booker earlier today. >> it was clear that we were not making the progress that we needed to make to give america when i think the largest civil rights protests we've had in our country's history demands for substantive meaningful reform. when i couldn't get to a point where i can help families, tell them we were going to address the specific issues that put your family member in harm's way, it's just -- this is not -- this pathway now seems to be closed. >> democrats have been negotiating with senator scott in good faith for months. the sticking point was qualified immunity that shields police officers from civility for misconduct. the most recent version of the bill was slimmed down version that did not include qualified immunity reform. the excessive use of force warr. they urged democrats to bring the policing act to the floor for a vote so americans can see who is looking out for their com community's best interests. it been more than a year since it change

guest: these negotiations over police reform talks, which were led by senator cory booker represented the democrats and 10 -- and rent -- and senator tim scott representing the republicans and this is something that they tried to negotiate last year when president trump was still in office and republicans controlled the senate. with that being election year, that made it much more difficult to get anything done. this year they found thorny issues like qualified immunity which shields police officers from liability in lawsuits, that was something that they couldn't come to an agreement on. once again, police reform is at a standstill, and house democrats have passed legislation twice, this year and last year, to address police reform. they can't pass things by simple majority in the senate, they couldn't unilaterally pass that bill on their own and as long as there weren't also nine other republican senators in addition to tim scott who would agree to something, that is another thing that they couldn't get done. host: let's get one more call in, gary in maryland, independent line. call

. >> brennan: senator cory booker, who was your partner in this -- this started under the trump administrationnd continued under the biden administration. with republicans it wentft the , let's be clear. we said, simply this: i am not going to participate in reducing funding for the police after we saw major city after major city defund the police. many provisions in this bill that he wanted me to agree to limited or reduced funding for the police. that is a lose/lose proposition. when you reduce funding for police, you actually lose lives in the community. our approach was a win/win approach. we want the best wearing the badge, and we want the vulnerable protected. so when you tie funding losses in this legislation, you should expect an allergic reaction from me. >> brennan: they would say that there wasn't a net loss of funding. in fact, there was funding being increased in terms of increased mental health funding, specifically. that there were specific programs for recruitment and training funding increases, body-worn camera increase. so that is not cutting funding. it might be allocating i

. >> brennan: senator cory booker, who was your partner in this -- this started under the trump administrationnder the biden administration. with republicans it went nowhere, and then with democrats it is going nowhere. >> the folks that left the tail are the democrats, let's be clear. we said, simply this: i am not going to participate in reducing funding for the police after we saw major city after major city defund the police. many provisions in this bill that he wanted me to agree to limited or reduced funding for the police. that is a

. >> imagine if this was stacey abrams or cory booker in that video you are playing, being accosted byody with a gorilla mask. the apocalypse in terms of media coverage would be all over this. it's silence of the lambs right now. the president of the united states will travel to california monday to speak on behalf of gavin newsom at a campaign stop. but joe biden couldn't manage to give a speech today to honor 3,000 dead, and the first responders who exposed themselves to god knows what. instead he had a video released the dade before. why isn't every democrat and republicans shaking their head right now. defend the absentee president at your own peril. saying he didn't give a speech today because a prompter wasn't available. judge jeanine: leo we are going to end with that because we are running out of time. they don't care, and it's all about them and they are wing. the battle over masks in schools. dr. siegel weighs in biden's new vaccine mandate coming under fire. doctor marc siegel joins me now to weigh him. good evening. very quickly, the president when he gave his i believe div

let's start with cory booker. no, we'll go back to aoc.e going down a pathway of making criminal defendanted into victims. what's missing in the conversation and continually missing, what about people who live in vulnerable communities? they are not victims anymore the real victims in their mind are the folks who are incarcerated. it's shameful. and corporations who are aligning with this woke man mentality. who are you speaking for? we are going down a very dark road. and people like myself, so-called moderate, when they don't stand up and say anything, they are complicit. judge jeanine: are you a moderate? >> i am a republican, conservative, but i'm about law and order. i have got to tell you what i see going on in our country, in our state. we are in trouble. there needs to be more folks stand up and denounce this rhetoric. judge jeanine: the michigan governor, gretchen whitmer supports a spirit of defunding the police. what will you do as governor? how will you act as it relates to that particular issue? >> first of all, i'm a leader.

and why he did the things he did, that eventually you had to accept it was what it was if you say cory bookercome in and try andhe housewives on one hand it so racist on another hand it is so absurd it lends itself. [laughter] that is so overt. >> was interesting there isn't a lot of disagreement between me and donald trump that there is not a lot of disagreement between us whether or not his audiencece enjoys is cruelty towards individuals whether or not races part of his voters after he calls kaepernick and says get that son of a pitch off the field. he never says what he is doing and then that disagreement really is not between me and donald trump or most of his left-wing critics but those critics in the industry of people in between us and donald trump who liked donald trump and want to support him and tell themselves thehe things that we are describing are not what they are supporting to say he did not mean it like that. he's not a politician this is our liberal misinterpretation of what donald trump said so whatever the rationalization i think ultimately donald trump and his worst criti

when you say cory booker is bgoing to come in and threaten, it's so old time he racist but so absurd that it lends itself tong someone being like that system is so revert. i think what's interesting is there's not a lot of disagreement between me and donald trump, about what donald trump believes and does but about whether that thing is good. but there's not a lot of disagreement between whether or not the audience enjoys the cruelty for individuals. i think that he called the paper a son of a [inaudible]. he said my people love this stuff. the disagreement really is between not to me and donald trump and most of his left-wing critics is between those critics and the industry of people in between us and donald trump who want to like donald trump and wanted to support him and tell themselves the things we are describing are not what they are supporting and so they have to say he didn't mean it like that. i think ultimately donald trump and his worst critics are in agreement about what donald trump is about. the people who want to defend him are dissenting for that consensus. one of th

when you say cory booker will come in had threatened housewives, it's so racist but on the other hand is so absurd that life itself to someone being like hey -- [laughter] and i think what's interesting is i think there's not a lot of disagreement between me and donald trump, what donald trump believes in and whether that is good but there's not a lot of disagreement on whether or not his audience enjoys his cruelty hetoward individuals, whether or not race this part of it. he said the new york times after calling kaepernick a son about -- he said my people love this stuff. the disagreement i think billy is between -- not between me and donald trump worked on a truck and most of his left-wing, it's between those critics and the people in between us and donald trump who like donald trump and want to support him and tell them stuff but the things we are describing are not what they are supporting so they have to say you didn't mean it like that, he's not a politician, this is a bad thing, liberal misinterpretation donald trump sent from a fake news, rationalization, i think ultimately i

doj or to sanctuary cities but seems they are willing to cut money to cops if they don't do when cory booker' them to do, that is defunding police just by another name. >> 100%. because we're short on time, just remember, this problem came to us, because chicago and atlanta, minneapolis. new york city, los angeles, portland, seattle, all big blue cities run by democrat mayors and super majority on their council decided not to act on behalf of their most vulnerable communities, so yes, they have tried to defund the police. we want to refund the police, public safety is job one. trey: senator thank you for your work. even if it is not always appreciated by our friends on the left. it appreciated by regular americans like me, thank you for coming on. i'll talk you to soon. >> god bless you. trey: re-- reversus >> what will the supreme court do? shannon bream is joining us next on "sunday night in america." ♪ ♪ welcome to allstate. where everything just seems to go your way. ♪ ♪ you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. i always had a connection to my grandfa

senator cory booker of new jersey talked about that yesterday.] >> why can't you trust moderates or whoever we want to classify folks? why not pass this on monday and put points on the scoreboard for president biden, which right now hopes the whole party, and trust the moderates will be there? >> i do not think it is a matter of trust. i have been around the town for eight years watching the best of intentions not manifest into something real. we were told this was one package. the president said don't separate this. this is one package. i want to make sure this is not about a bunch of people battling it out in congress. this is about the american people. to get half of this done and leave americans looking for lower-cost prescription drugs, to lead people like that on the wayside, families that need that child tax credit, leave those folks on the weight side -- wayside is on except a bull to me. i want a real guarantee. -- acceptable -- unacceptable to me. i want a real guarantee. i haven't looked in the eye by people in this town and they have

democratic senator cory booker announcing that discussions for a bipartisan deal have fallen apart after months of negotiations. tonight vice president harris calling senate republicans refusal to move forward on police reform unconscionable. joining me to discuss is democratic congresswoman karen bass who was a key negotiator on policing reform. thank you for joining us, congresswoman. i appreciate it. good evening. a lot of optimism that we would get meaningful policing reform or police reform, even though it was never going to be easy to get the 60 votes in the senate. so what brought down these talks? >> well, first of all, let me just acknowledge that over 200 days ago, the house of representatives did pass the george floyd justice in policing bill, and i think that senator booker and i were very optimistic because senator scott seemed as though he really wanted to see reform take place. and actually because of the filibuster that your guest was just talking about, we needed those ten republican votes. and it just seemed as though senator scott had a very difficult time getting to y

after months of negotiation with the black republicans in the senate, senator cory booker announced that bipartisan police reform had hate dead end. juanita, briefly, please, was senator tim scott negotiating in good faith or trying to run out the clock? >> absolutely run out the clock, rev. when democrats went to him with the bare minimum, which did not include ending qualified immunity, no knock warrants, he still said no. it just goes to show he was not planning to reach a deal with democrats at any point, so all eyes need to be on senate democrats as well as the white house to take action because nothing with republicans seems feasible, rev. >> we're definitely going to keep the pressure on because police reform is absolutely necessary. juanita tolliver and susan del percio, thank you both. >>> coming up, the trump presidency is over, but the former guy is still finding fresh ways to stoop to knew lows. >>> but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. richard? >> rev, a very good saturday to you. stories we're watching for you this hour, the united states reache

while the speaker is trying to manage expectations senator cory booker of new jersey on sunday promised to push for big measures in the reconciliation bill. >> we do a 3 trillion bill i'll push for big and bold, an historic investment in america. >> harris: it is like water. pour more water on it and in the meanwhile it's our tax dollars as american citizens. >> they saw us accept the spending at the beginning of covid. they've been conditioned now. this is what we need to do and they are willing to accept it. so once you unlock that door, if now if the republicans stand up again for the american people, there is no benefit. there is no helpfulness in bankrupting the country or american families. it is like handing your checkbook to a 12-year-old. it is not about the numbers nancy pelosi said, it is about value. there is a value to taking the entire family to hawaii for 17 months. that would be fabulous and you can't afford that, either. there is a value to having a hummer in the driveway if you need one but that's value, what if you can't afford to drive it? this is about the numbers.

that's who cory booker said they basically just reached an impasse.ever spoken to those senators? >> i have not spoken to him personally, but i would just ask the senate to think for a minute and just imagine that george is your family member who was brutally and senselessly murdered in broad daylight on the street by a police officer. and if you can imagine that, i mean, that should be enough for anybody to make a decision that's worthwhile in this case, because if that doesn't do it, i don't know what will. >> what's your biggest disappointment? do you know how it fell apart? >> i don't know canexactly how fell apart. my biggest disappointment is i'm the mother of two boys, ages 9 and 14. and one of my biggest fears is they will encounter the same fate that george did. and what i do know is that without this bill, there is no accountability. and as long as there is no accountability or consequences, the police brutality is going to continue. so this bill is needed. >> i've spoken to you before, i've spoken to so many of your family. phelonus, george

cory booker is going to come in and threaten the housewives, on the one hand it's so absurd that it lends itself to someone being like hey it's so overt. and i think what's interesting is i think there's disagreement about what donald trump thinks and what he does. there's not a lot of disagreement between us about whether or not his audience enjoys cruelty towards individuals and whether or not race is a part of his pitch to his voters and after he called colin kaepernick a -- he said my people love this stuff. the disagreement i think really is between, not between me and donald trump or donald trump and most of his left-wing critics, it is between those critics and the industry of people in between donald trump who like donald trump and want to support him and want to tell themselves that the things we are describing are not what they are. .. one of the things i one of things i i love about attitude is he is great clarity in his writing. i was talking about that at the top. thati really is the job. i don't wanty to get you into to much trouble but i know through conversations with you

democratic senator cory booker made the announcement. >> i had a quick conversation with tim scott.ore meaningful progress on establishing really substantive reform to america's policing. the effort from the very beginning would be to get police reform that would raise professional standards, police reform that would create a lot more transparency, and police reform that would create more accountability. we could not come to an agreement on those three big areas. >> republican tim scott provide statement that read in part, quote, i offered to introduce a bill that included our areas of compromise, a bill that activists and law enforcement alike could have supported. despite having plenty of agreement, democrats said no because they could not let go of their push to defund the police. senator scott's office said the provision to withhold grants from departments who do not support abuse encounters cut off the stream of funding. we'll hear more from senator booker about this a little later on when he joins "morning joe." >>> many haitian immigrants who spent days living under a bridge

chuck will be joined by homeland security secretary and new jersey senator cory booker. >>> mourners are gathering on new york's long island today to robe gabby peito. she was found dead earlier this month in wyoming. police are searching for her boyfriend, a person of interest in the case. kathy park is outside the funeral home where the public has been invited to join gabby peito's family today. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. the memorial gets underway in a couple hours. hearts are heavy in this community as they remember a young woman described as a shining star. meanwhile, more than 1200 miles away in florida, is search intensifies for her fiance. this morning, the long island community where gabby peito grew up is preparing to say good-bye. >> she was always happy, always smiling. you would never think anything like this would happen to her. >> reporter: ahead of her funeral, an outpouring of grief and support. >> look. >> reporter: butterflies released overnight. a tribute to her final social media post. the 22-year-old came to national attention after she vani

. >> cory booker says they need to find another way to get something done. >> i believe fundamentally transparency in policing. we have to have accountability when police do awful things. there should be consequences. and god, we must have higher professional standards. we weren't there. it's clear we weren't there. a lot of the stories coming out show we have gulfs between us. we need to find another way. i was talking to president biden yesterday. he is committed to moving as far as possible through executive action. >> joining us is retired lapd sergeant sheryl dorsey, the author of "the confidence chronicle: the greatest crime story never told." keith boykin is with us as well, author of "race against time: the politics of a dark america." sergeant dorsey, there was so much hope around this. and there was for a time some bipartisan agreement on really the core elements of this. many months later it's done. how disappointd are you and what's the path forward? >> listen, i'm not disappointed at all. i'm a realist and i never believe that this thing is going to pass. tim scott said f

our chair of the congressional black caucus joyce beatty, congresswoman karen bass and senator cory booker. we are not done. the george floyd justice in policing bill is very much alive. we will continue to work because lives depend on it. >> how do you see regaining footing on that, and does it mean the participants would change? >> well, what we are going to do first and foremost is look at the executive orders that were passed in the previous administration. senator scott wants to talk about requirements that law enforcement has to meet in order to receive federal funding. that was a policy under the trump administration, so is senator scott saying he didn't support trump's policies on police accountability that he adopted? if so, then let's have that debate and let's have that conversation, but george floyd justice in policing is very much alive. the congressional black caucus which is 57 members strong will call for the passage of this legislation. lives depend on it and we are not done. >> congressman steve horse,ford, thanks you so much. as we're talking about police reform effort.

bernie sanders, cory booker, kirsten gillibrand among those making that call brian? >> it's a big fight there. >> absolutely. >> if you read a lot of research, the odds of that happening they say are not zero but it's going to be a big fight, even amongst the democrats. thank you very much. >>> now to the markets, the fed and your money as we noted, there was some confusion around the fed meeting yesterday with regard to the group's economic projections, the so called dot plots on where they see rates headed and whether they pulled their time line for interest rate hikes forward. so given that, it's a great time to catch up with christopher ailman, chief officer of calsters who helps oversee some $318 billion and is very sensitive to interest rates. we begin by asking about the apparent confusion around those rate hike projections and what his take is about what the fed really said when it comes to the next rate hike >> brian you have to love the dot plot it always creates controversy and everybody is trying to figure out where everybody is on that a great point, it'

. >> and gwen, if you had the two leading senators that were negotiating cory booker and tim scott, ifght now, what would you say to them? >> go back to the table. let's get this bill passed. don't just let it die. >> gwen, given everything that you've lost and that others have lost and all of what we saw last year, if that doesn't spur change, it makes you worry about what actually has to happen and what may be lost in order for something to shift in this country. gwen carr, thank you for joining us this sunday morning. >> thank you for having me. >>> after nearly 16 years in power, german chancellor angela merkel is stepping down. what's at stake for her and her country as voters head to the polls. we're going live to berlin next. tonight be sure to watch the cnn film "the lost sons." here's a preview. >> my name is paul franzach. i thought i knew who i was. when i was 10 years old, my mom and dad said you were kidnapped from a hospital. the fbi found you. is this really true? i started wondering, am i really paul? >> for quite some time he was trying to find out who am i. he knews t

we've been wondering if it was worth it but democrats like cory booker and others said give them a shot. the news tonight, these talks have collapsed. the three lead negotianegotiato congresswoman bass, senator booker and tim scott from the republican party basically making it official, calling it quits today. a key sticking point is something we've reported on from the start. many experts and blm movement activists said you need to reform qualified immunity that shields police. if you don't do that, you don't get anywhere. here's how senator booker put it. >> the effort from the very beginning was to get police reform that would raise professional standards, police reform that would create a lot more transparency and then police reform that would create accountability and we're not able to come to agreements on those three big areas. >> that is being very diplomatic. before i bring mya back in, i want to put our news context on this for you. it's been 485 days since a police officer murdered george floyd. congresswoman bass is out with a statement calling on president biden to step up

but then you get to the new liberals, which would be like, you know, cory booker.ch is the old democratic party which is where joe biden wants to be working for populist and then you get into what the democratic party has become, which is the intellectual elites, right? and then you have the far left progressive wing of it which would be the aocs and the ilhan omars with defund the police and radical ideas of a lot more spending. that would be the ideological spectrum not that far off. in terms of timing revolutionary war, the 1830s, more people get the right to vote than the 1890s, the guilded age, corruption leads to the progressive area, recall elections, et cetera, et cetera. we used to have the state pick the senators. things can move. it's about 60 years cycle of reform. you think we're ready for one? >> i'm ready. are you ready? i've been ready because this seems unworkable to me. lee in his piece if you look at his book he outlines you're going to have to change how you do congressional races to make them bigger catch man areas to have representatives which