cory gardner is saying he should not run and the senate should not seat him?

that's from cory gardner. this came in just prior to david lee miller beginning to speak. we're trying to get to mike emanuel. the question is what sort -- how much pressure will mount as a result of this. is mike emanuel -- here's what is happening. mike emanuel is getting reaction to this. remember, there were accusations that the nrsc pulled their money and support from roy moore already. we'll get to mike emanuel for reaction on that in just a moment. president trump meeting with a man of the philippines, has killed thousands according to activists and accused of human rights violations. there was no public condemnation from president trump on this trump. details in a live report from manilla. senator rand paul returning to capitol hill after the attack that he says broke six ribs. what he's saying about that assault is also coming up. headlines from the fox news deck coming up. you'll need in retire? then we found out how many years that money would last them. how long do you think we'll keep -- oooooohhh! you stopped! you're gonna leave me back here at year 9? how di

but senator cory gardner is now saying it should happen again. hasn't happened since 1862. he says it should happen for roy moore if roy moore wins in alabama next month. and that turns out not to be just an interesting history lesson, it not only ends up being an interesting point for gardner to take, it also is practically important because it offers a few different potential off-ramps for the republican party if they want to get themselves out of this roy moore crisis that they are in. and of those off ramps, the easiest one, the one that actually takes the least courage, is to do what senator cory gardner did today and just threaten that if roy moore is elected, he may face expulsion. you can just threaten that. that's a possibility, alabama, if you elect him, we may expel him. if you want to kick it up a notch and be slightly braver than that, they could turn that 38 into a promise. republicans could organize the necessary votes in the united states senate to expel him. make a public show of force. don't just threaten, promise that if roy moore is elected, he will be e

cory gardner is uting this on the table. if roy moore were to win, he would face a significant call from republican leadership to be expelled after being seated at the senate. >> and danny, help me about the legality. accusations are something, as are almost all accusations about sexual harassment or sexual assault, they're often not other witnesses. often no documentary proof. you go back that many years. we don't have the same things like texts and e-mails. >> reporter: you go back this many year, often oath versus oath and everything comes down to the credibility of the accuser. and that necessarily and sadly involves investigation not only into the story itself but maybe the believability. maybe that person's character. even though that's not the way it should be, that's often the direction law enforcement will go. i will say in terms of the statute of limitations, it's interesting that if these allegations are true, this and the other ones we've heard in the late '70s, then roy moore may have barely dodged a prosecution

the nrs c chairman, senator cory gardner says moore should not run, and if he wins he should be expelledte. moore is accused of making inappropriate advances on at least five women what they were in their teens and moore was in his 30s. moore denies the allegations. he says they are a political witch hunt, and now he's threatening legal action against "the washington post," the paper that first broke the story. reporters at the post said they spoke to over 30 people, including four accusers, a fifth accuser, beverly nelson spoke out today. she says moore assaulted her when she was 15 years old. nelson says moore offered to drive her home from work but instead of taking her home, other than district attorney parked his car near a dumpster and began touching her chest. >> i tried fighting him off, while yelling at him to stop. but instead of stopping come he began squeezing my neck, attempting to force my head onto his for . he said you were just a child and i am the district attorney. if you tell anyone about this no one will ever believe you. >> moore has a lot of support in alabama, but

cory gardner, he said, true, out. charlie points out, well, what does that mean?waiting for at this point? it's a decision of, do you believe the woman or not? >> it's -- right now, he said/she said. does anyone come forward? what else is at stake. charlie made a good point. putting my political hat on now. >> fair enough. >> the "access hollywood" didn't, wasn't the end of donald trump. he survived and became president and you had every leading republican wanting him to get out, calling him openly to get out of the race and far more evidence than here. >> and what mitch mcconnell is thinking, him in the senate is worse for the republican brand than republicans needing -- losing one more seat? >> not a cal clagculation i makt a two-seat majority, every seat counts. lose alabama. what does it do for the legislative agenda for the next year? you can lose two. >> without a dtiebreaker. >> and hard enough. democrats have to just pick up neff never and arizona and it's game, set of ma, if they can hold their own. >> tax reform. finally. tuesday changing the calculus ev

and senator cory gardner, runs the senate's gop arm says the senate should vote to expel him if he wins. a lot of republicans are suggesting they believe moore's accusers, which raises the question, does the white house? moore's candidacy was rocked by allegations that he initialled sexual contact with minors. he's denied the allegations calling them false, untrue and politically motivated, but more of them are surfacing. this afternoon beverly young nelson alleged moore sexually assaulted her when she was 16 years old. here's part of the statement she made alongside her lawyer, gloria allred. and we should warn you, what you are about to hear is disturbing and it is graphic. >> mr. moosh reare reached othe began groping me and putting his hands on my breast. i tried to open my car door to leave, but he reached over, and he locked it so i could not get out. i tried fighting him off while yelling at him to stop. but instead of stopping he began squeezing my neck attempting to force my head on to his crotch. i thought that he was going to rape me. i was twisting and i was struggling and i

that's cory gardner. in a fundraising e-mail today with the subject line mitch mcconnell's plot to destroy me, moore hit back. quote, apparently mitch mcconnell and the establishment gop would rather elect a radical pro-abortion democrat than a conservative christian as the next u.s. senator from alabama. meanwhile, another accuser has come forward today against roy moore. beverly young nelson said she was sexually assaulted by moore when she was 16 and moore offered her a ride home from her job at a restaurant. she spoke with reporters today, along with her attorney, gloria allred. >> mr. moore reached over and began groping me. him putting his hands on my breasts. i tried to open my car door to leave, but he reached over and he locked it so i could not get out. i tried fighting him off while yelling at him to stop. but instead of stopping, he began squeezing my neck, attempting to force my head on to his crotch. at some point he gave up and then looked at me, and he told me -- he said, you're just a chi

and colorado senator cory gardner who is in charge of electing republicans to the senate went even further. saying in a statement, if moore refuses to withdraw and wins, the senate should vote to expel him. because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the united states senate. the swift condemnation coming on the heels of harassment scandals rocking hollywood. the media, and state houses across the country. leaving some asking, is capitol hill next? >> the chief of staff held my face, kissed me, and stuck his tongue in my mouth. >> reporter: congresswoman jackie speier thinks so. she posted this video last month with the hashtag me too about her time as a congressional staffer. speier will testify at a hearing tuesday aimed at changing policies that often lag far behind corporate america. in part because lawmakers police themselves. >> it's possible they thought well we're different than the rest of the world. you know. >> they get to write their own rules? >> exactly. and so i think that has filtered through a lot of behavior over the years. >> reporter: kristen brown wo

. >> cory gardner when you drop that name he said he is going on the record saying he would vote to expel roy moore had he been elected. that sets nat motion. >> there's plenty that would the join republicans in that. you need 67 strots exbell a member of senate. it has not happened since mid 1800s. moore that's whip the race it get that to place. they show him down 3 points after allegations game out and he was also already in bad spot before the allegations he was not winning there was not a sure thing for sure. >> let me ask you about the democratic khechinger here. doug jones where does he stand in all of this. >> yeah i mean obviously he's focusing on the allegations. but also has been having kitchen ep table talks with residence of alabama talking about issues that matter to them. and you know which i think is one of the reasons he's doing well in the race and not running as anti-roy moore guy running onsh use. the other thing he issomely could be a vote against republicans and almost anything even from alabama he's pretty progressive liberal and would be a pretty safe democratic vo

so there is procedures in place where they could vote him out, and there have been some like cory gardner, a key figure in the senate, saying he will vote to expel him if roy moore gets seated. but that is down the road. it is going tbe a tough fight if they want to do it, and very embarrassing, honestly, for the republican party one way or the other. jane: that was anthony zurcher joining me a short time ago. the acr bryan cranston has told the bbc there may be a way back for harvey weinstein and kevin spacey if they show they are truly sorry. the "breaking bad" star says the recent wave of sexual assault allegations in hollywood has raised awareness of a societal problem. he spoke to us on the opening of london'slay at national theater. bryan: a very interesting perspective, as i've never sat out here looking that way. quite an impressive set. reporter: you were an overnight success, you could argue. bryan: i was -- reporter: at 50-ish. bryan cranston became an international superstar with his hit tv show "breaking bad," playing walter white, a chemistry teacher who becomes a drug deali

we know the national senate committee is not backing him anymore, cory gardner pulled the plug on thatost immediately. is there an option on your whiteboard that you think is the most likely? do you have a luther strange write-in? we know the president, mitch mcconnell spoke about this earlier today. what's the scenario that you see that you think might work? >> look, i doubt there would be a luther strange write-in. he got beat in the primary and there will be a lot of hard feelings left over from that, and he might get more votes than he got last time around, but it would still be the 400 some out thousand votes cast in the republican primary split two different ways. if roy moore does not step aside and say i am withdrawing from this race and i encourage all of my voters -- supporters to back this one candidate, jeff sessions or congressman robert at her hold, or former governor bob riley >> martha: let me jump in, you really think that jeff sessions is going to come back and run for the senate seat? >> no. i've known him since college days. what he said today that he reveres the of

cory gardner, the chairman of the committee one of the first to say the senate should expel moore should he win. it hasn't been done in 155 years. mitch mcconnell also calling for moore to drop out. >> i think he should step aside. >> do you believe these allegations to be true? >> i believe the women, yes. >> gop senator jeff flake who is retiring went to say that if the choice is between roy moore and a democrat, a democrat no doubt. even bratgreater number are say he should exit the race if the allegations are true but they're less clear on what to do if he stays in and wins. >> one idea is a write-in campaign for luther strange who currently holds the seat but lost in the primary. strange, however calls the idea highly unlikely. roy moore himself adamantly denies the latest allegations. >> i can tell you without hesitation this is absolutely false. i never did what she said i did. i don't even know the woman. i don't know anything about her. >> the woman, beverly nelson said he sexually assaulted her when she as 16. she hade he offered her a ride home and parked behind the restaurant

let's ask senator cory gardner.congressman garamendi last night, and here's what he said about how he thinks the president's rhetoric is working or not working. >> it's very, very dangerous, not just his rhetoric but kim jong un's rhetoric. these two folks are not much different than a bunch of kids on a schoolyard cursing each other. the result is you usually get in a fight and we do not want a fight on the korean peninsula. >> shannon: what do you think of his assessment? the president says what we've been doing hasn't worked. >> what you saw tonight before the national assembly, the speech. he said he doesn't want to fight. we have to prepare for it but we have to make sure we do everything we can do peacefully denuclearized and that's using our diplomatic measures and emm emma -- economic pressure. i think you saw powerful and clear message to south korea that we stand with our ally and a clear message to kim jong un that you better denuclearized. >> shannon: we know he's going to be heading to beijing. the worl

. >> chairman cory gardner also spoke out saying if more is elected the senate should vote to expel himch more to come back. rand paul meantime back on the senate floor but still recovering from six broken ribs after being attacked in his own yard, this bizarre story, his neighbor charged with assault claiming it was over a landscaping butte and paul was not hit from behind, paul telling the washington examiner, quote, there is no motive that would justify hitting somebody from behind and breaking their ribs and damaging -- no justification for something like that. donald trump tweeting his support, quote, great to see rand paul looking well and back on the senate floor. he will help us with tax cuts and reform. right now donald trump is on his way back to the us after wrapping up his marathon through asia, commander-in-chief meeting with key allies they economic conference in the philippines during the final leg of the 12 day trip. north korea high on the agenda as the president met with the president of japan and australia prime minister malcolm turned bill. the change north korean re

even if moore wins this race, cory gardner said at that point he feels that moore should be expelled from the senate. that from his republican colleague potentially. >> neil: incredible. blake burman, thanks very much. how about making a moot point by just trying to get tax cuts voted on december december 12 in the special election? jason russell, how likely is that kind of a timetable? >> seems unlikely to me. if you look at how the house and the senate have been working, it takes a long time to get things done. especially with healthcare debate. had a lot of stop and goes in the senate and the house. so to think they get it right on the first try, i'd be surprised if they were able to do it. that's this week, the week after thanksgiving and the week after that. it's way too quick to be possible. >> neil: help me with the calendar. one is to try to get the house to approve this by the end of the week, ahead of thanksgiving, quite a bit ahead and then the senate does its markup thing as it's done this week. gets ready for a vote presumably the week after thanksgiving. then they have

there were two senate republicans today, cory gardner was interviewed by wolf blitzer. i didn't see them and then he says he's the best president i ever served. this is ridiculous. we're getting into possibly very dangerous confrontations with foreign leaders. it's on everybody because i do think the "access hollywood" apology and the dropping of the birther conspiracy during the campaign shows when he is surrounded, he will back down, but he has to be surrounded to have no other way out. and it can be done, but it takes force. >> i'm a lawyer. i work in the world of evidence and facts. right now we keep saying apparent around this table today. we don't have any facts. but everyone says these a apparent comments he's made. no one's talking about context or voracity. it's the chief of staff's job to have these discussions with the president, and until the white house comes out and says these are positions of the white house or president , that hasn't happened. >> if the president is publicly saying to three people i don't think that's me on the "access hollywood" tape an

i think people like mitch mcconnell, they like cory gardner.e need to take a stand on this as it is on acceptable behavior. we do not wanted here with us. there is no place for it in washington. i am torn about this. obviously they will get a chance to vote for one market one purebred there should be a candidate that has not been accused of child molestation. >> is obviously a difficult conversation but an important one. on the inner hand i wanted to some degree, remixing up misdemeanors and felonies? we have a case of al franken who allegedly, forcibly kissed this woman and groped her which is clearly piggish behavior. on the other hand is different from the allegations against roy moore who as you pointed out allegedly was having sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl. should they all be career offenders? >> i do not -- it was a good piece that came on in your post about this. they said harvey weinstein picture should not be next al franken picture. roy moore is picture should not be next to the guy from amazon for instance. this. >> some peo

gardner --rmed cory and they are in full retreat. hornis from stanley the army of tennessee. 3 itote on january received his first direct word telegraphed from corinth. aat must go down in masterpiece of understatement. the army has" recrossed the tennessee river since the battle of franklin. he goes on to say that she did not say anything about the shocking loss at franklin and the disaster at nashville. sword writes the same thing. it is the confederacy's last hurrah.-- hood basically lied to his affairs by sin we have not lost any more since the battle of franklin. that is totally untrue because they lost 50 cannons and 4500 more casualties at nashville. here is what happened. if you actually go to the footnotes in the official mr.swordere is what cited. it is to general cooper. beaureguard that they suffered no material losses since the battle of franklin. you see that little asterisk? it says turn to page 757. here is what he said. the army has crossed without material losses from the battle of nashville. and it sayserisk here i

. >> senator cory gardner, a republican from colorado, says strategic patience is just another name for do-nothing approach. >> if your kids are at the table and they're throwing food around at each other, do you just sit back and say, i'm going to strategically wait until they fight -- >> but this isn't a food fight. this is something far more serious. >> what we get with patience is a nuclear program in north korea. what we got with patience is a launching of ballistic missiles. >> but we also got to all survive. we also are here. there is still a korean peninsula. >> well, if you trust -- if people believe they can trust kim jong-un, he said he would use his weapons, i believe him. that's why we have to make sure that he doesn't have that ability. >> and those weapons would likely be used first on our south korean allies. >> most of the enemy forces are located here. 70% of their fires -- >> as defense secretary james mattis was reminded when he recently visited the demilitarized zone. mattis did his best to reassure his hosts. >> our goal is not war, but rather, the complete verifia

you have cory gardner saying moore should be removed if elected. and i don't want to minimize the franken situation either. having taken responsibility, it took him a while to get there, so let's be clear, al franken is not innocent in this at all, but the roy moore situation is very problematic and one that republicans will have to deal with. and tweeting about lavar ball isn't solving that problem to be sure. >> and that argument of equivalency being made by some because you have the democrat al franken on one side and then you have roy moore the republican, yet this is not like the equations we did in math class where if you have one on the left and you ever one on the right, you can cross them off and therefore they don't exist. it doesn't -- when we talk about sexual harassment, if there is one on the left and there is one on the right, there is one on the left and right and they are both wrong. and at the moment those looking at sexual harassment say don't politicize this. it's wrong in alabama, it's wrong in minnesota. >> and i will tell you

. >> bret: cory gardner called for moore's expulsion today should he win, saying "if he refuses to withdraw and wins, the senate should vote to expel him because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the united states senate." adding to the confusion, alabama has what's called a sore loser's law which means that primary opponents luther strange and mo brooks would not be able to be on the ballot. a writing campaign would be the only way they would go forward. president trump's trip to asia is winding down but there's no doubt has been busy. over the weekend, the president made a few headlines for what he did or did not say to the philippine leader. in another case, what president trump said about vladimir putin. john roberts has the story. >> it was the most controversial of the many meetings he's had in the past 11 days. president trump sitting down with philippines president rodrigo duterte. >> we've had a great relationship. this has been very successful. >> duterte has presided over an aggressive drug war in the philippines marked by thousands of extrajudicial killings.

cory gardner, chairman of the senate republican campaign committee, one of the first to say the senate should expel him, should he win the especially election four weeks from today. mitch mcconnell also calling for him to drop out. >> i think he should step aside. >> do you believe these allegations to be true? >> i believe the women, yes. >> gop senator jeff flake, who is retiring went so far as to say that quote, if p the choice is between roy moore and a democrat, a democrat, know doubt. >> now, an even greater number of republican senators are saying roy moore should exit the race, if the allegations are true. which will be impossible to prove, almost 40 years later, but senators are less clear on what to do if moore stays in. and when. >> roy moore himself adamantly denies the latest allegations. >> i can tell you without hesitation this is absolutely false. i never did what she said i did. i don't even know the woman. i don't know anything about her. >> the woman moore is referring to is named beverly nelson. she says he sexually assaulted her when she was 16 years old. nelson sa

cory gardner calling for the full senate to expel moore if he should win the special election on december 12th. but moore and his allies remain defiant, copying the playbook who went on to win the election over a year ago. moore called the new allegations absolutely false. >> i never did what she said i did. i don't even know the woman. i don't know anything about her. i don't even know where the restaurant is or was. if this is a political maneuver, it has nothing to do with reality. it's all about politics. >> he doesn't know where the restaurant is. but we should note here that the name of the restaurant, old hickory house was included in the inscription in nelson's yearbook from roy moore, d.a. responding to mcconnell's comments this moring, the moore campaign tweeted the person who should step aside is mitch mcconnell. he has failed conservatives and must be replaced, #drain the swamp. moore has threatened to sue "the washington post" and hinted he has some kind of exculpatory information to reveal. allies of breitbart news have sent to reporters of alabama in an effort to discredit

cory gardner, susan collins, rob portman, same thing.a lot to go on there, and certainly more fallout as the day continues. >>> a year after winning the presidential election, critics are blasting president trump for having no major legislative accomplishments, but he's made good on one campaign promise. rolling back dozens of environmental regulations. cheer environmental affairs correspondent anne thompson has more. >> reporter: scott pruett's first trip as head of the epa was to a coal mine. as the agency cole miner's flagging president trump as he started undoing the clean power plant. >> you're going back to work. >> reporter: a very different kind of environmental protection, the president making good on his promise to roll back dozens of environmental regulations including rules that kept coal waste out of water waste and required stronger flood standards for infrastructure. he's tried to downsize the agency. >> we are going to get rid of it in almost every form. we're going to have little tidbits left. >> reporter: proposing slas

. >> senator cory gardner goes one step further, he doesn't want roy moore to step aside, if he weres senate, the senate should vote to expel him. and the senate potentially could do that. >> they could, but imagine the upheaval you would hear after that, in a democracy where someone was fairly elected to be fired on top of that, i'm not sure the republicans would hold very well with their constitu t constituents either. i agree with dana, all eyes are going to be on the president and how he reacts to this. and steve bannon too. the more women we see coming forward. how much is this guy willing to put his reputation on the line for someone who -- whether or not you believe the story, but you have to think about why so many women would come ought and go through the pain of recalling the story. >> so far there are five women who have come forward. you know, there's a lot of speculation out there. do you anticipate more women coming forward in the coming days, if they do, will it make much of a difference as far as roy moore is concerned? >> i think it will, if you look at these cases i

about refusing to seat him, but expelling him is a very real possibility, and that is what senator cory gardnerd of the campaign arm for republican senators. he's got his eye on the midterm election. he's certainly worried that this is something that is going to drag down other senate republicans who are incumbents. and he said that if roy moore refuses to withdraw and he wins the senate should expel him. that is something that would take two-thirds of the chamber to push forward. so that would need democratic support. there isn't a firm word yet on where democratic leadership is on this, but i was talking to one senator who has been here -- he would there wouldn't be a situation where he would not vote to expel roy moore. roadway moore being a problem for republicans is something that favors democrats politically, but this senator said, look, politics aside, roy moore is not good for the senate. so does there seem to be some democratic support in an effort to expel him if he's seated. it's a real possibility is what this democratic senator said to me, anderson. >> appreciate it. thanks very mu

whatever the reason he decided to come out for moore, the republican position in the senate cory gardner who runs the campaign arm of republican senators has been very strong, very vocal and said this guy needs to be expelled from the senate if he gets to washington. now, there hasn't been as much conversation about that in recent days because i think partly because of the way the white house responded. but that is still the defacto position of the republican leadership as far as i know, if he wins, they're going to start an expulsion process and kick him out of the senate. look, i think the white house's view is they want tax cuts so bad, they don't care who has this seat as long as the republican vote. nobody wants that tax vote bill more than mitch mcconnell and the leadership in the senate. >> as you pointed out before, there is no guarantee he would vote for this tax bill as it is right now. he is a person who has talked a lot, he has pop uist happy tos in his campaign, he's more trump than trump in a lot of ways. he could very well get to the senate if he wins and say i think this

. >> desjardins: her story sparked a new round of reaction, colorado senator cory gardner, who oversees.p. senate elections, said the senate should expel moore if he win his senate seat. hours earlier republican mitch mcconnell said moore should drop out of the race. >> i think he should step aside. >> desjardins: mcconnell added that he believes the accusations from four women in the original the "washington post" story that ran last week. >> i believe the women, yes. >> desjardins: moore fired back at mcconnell on twitter, saying the senate leader is the one who should step aside. repeatedly, including in birmingham over the weekend, the former state chief justice has insisted he is innocent. >> these attacks involve a minor and they are completely false and untrue. to think that grown women would wait 40 years to come before- right before an election to bring charges is absolutely unbelievable. >> desjardins: moore said he will sue the "washington post" over the original story. those who may decide moore's fate, alabama voters, were mixed following those first accusations. some criti

. >> let me read you something from cory gardner. he said i believe the individuals speaking out against roy moore spoke with courage and truth proving he is unfit to serve in the united states senate and should not run for office. if he refuses to withdraw and wins, the senate should vote to expel him because he does not meet the ethsical and moral requirements of the u.s. senate. can you take us through mechanically and politically what this means for the u.s. senate and republican caucus? >> well, republicans are in a real bind here because, let's say roy moore wins this race and honestly, knowing roy moore, the way we do already on the hill, he's unlikely to respond to this kind of pressure if it doesn't come from the very top. let's say he wins. he can't be seated if they can successfully vote to expel him. that requires 67 votes and potentially weeks or months of legal wrangling. it isn't the kind of thing that can necessarily happen in one day after he wins and arrives in washington. so e pelling him is certainly an option but

. >> reporter: senator cory gardner, going further, saying if moore refuses to withdraw and wins, theate should vote for expel him. others voicing support for a possible write-in candidate. only five senators who back moore's campaign officially withdraw their endorsements. still many voters in his state of alabama rallying around the controversial former judge. >> we make very bad decisions when we're young. >> are we going to take one bad action and discount the good that he's doing now? >> reporter: others in his hometown telling cnn that the rumors about moore's behavior are well known. >> what we would hear was that he would hang out at the mall to meet young teenagers. >> it was common knowledge. you just steered away from him. >> reporter: an editorial in alabama's largest paper, "the birmingham news" called moore grossly unfit, saying he should step down. moore saying he's not going anywhere. part of his defense is that these accusers are being paid to come forward. leigh corpman family member telling me, quote, no money, endorsement has been paid or promised and none is expec

mitch mcconnell, cory gardner, rob portman, sues an collins, lisa murkowski, david perdue, jeff flake, john thune, pat toomey. so far among gop senators, only john mccain has gone farther saying the allegations against roy moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. he should immediately step aside and allow the people of alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of. today former gop presidential candidate mitt romney weighed in saying innocent until proven guilty is for criminal convictions, not elections. i believe leigh corfman. her account is too serious to ignore. moore is unfit for office and should step aside. this is exactly where every decent republican should end up. and here's a less polite decision for them. republicans need to decide if it's worse to have a democrat in the senate or a pedophile. let's get to our panel. phil rucker, "washington post" white house bureau chief. michael steele, former rnc chairman, ron clan, former chief of staff to vice presidents joe biden and al gore. and the rev al sharpton, host of "politics nation" here is msnbc and president of

. >> we heard that from cory gardner, as well. dems won expectedly dem seats, chris. the line from "the new york times" overnight was, trumpism without trump doesn't work. was gillespie's mistake that he didn't run close enough to trump, didn't bear hug him enough or didn't create enough distance? >> i think it's you have to do both of those things, kate, in order to win. remember, ed gillespie almost lost the primary back in june to a guy named cory stewart who was involved with the trump campaign in virginia, although was let go from that job. no one thought that race was going to be close, including ed gillespie. he narrowly sneaks by. why? because the trump base doesn't see him as sufficiently loyal. now, when it comes to the general election, gillespie tries to do trumpism without trump, we don't want donald trump the person here, but we're going to talking about ms-13 and sanctuary cities, even though there are none in virginia, we're going to talk about keeping the confederate monuments up. that doesn't work, because in places like loudoun county, exurban d.c.,

topic sexual harassment is for america generally that people like mitch mcconnell, people like cory gardnernd up and take a stand on something like this and say this is unacceptable behavior, and we don't want it here with us. and there's no place for it in washington. i'm obviously the voters will get their chance to vote for roy moore if they want, but there should be a candidate on the ballot on the republican side who has not been accused of child molestation. >> chris: let me ask you, because this is obviously a difficult conversation, but it's an important conversation. on the other hand, i wonder to some degree are we mixing up misdemeanors and felonies? you got the case of al franken who allegedly forcibly kissed this woman and groped her, which is clearly piggish behavior. on the other hand, it's different from the allegations against roy moore, who, as you pointed out, allegedly was having sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl. should they all be career enters? >> i don't think so personally. i think that having that nuanced discussion is what we need to do at this point. there w

and so, when cory gardner and when other senators have suggested that they won't seat him, that's nothe case. that is a perfect nightmare for mitch mcconnell. if roy moore wins this race, they are going to have to seat them. it is lose/lose. the best-case scenario right now for republicans is for doug jones to win this race. >> for doug jones, boy, i agree with you completely. anyway, jeff, do you want to weigh in on that? as a reporter, maybe you can't. but you can certainly analyze. because if trump gets this guy he really doesn't want, he will get him because he has to, because he's part of the whole alt-right and whole bannon operation, but if he gets this guy he never wanted because he knew he would be an embarrassment, not just because of this, but because of all the stuff we knew before, i go along with the former congressman. i think he's better off with tack taking the loss. >> potentially. the other thing that's true about this race, with at this point, the race is a referendum in my ways on mitch mcconnell and the republican establishment. you have steve bannon stirring up

senator, cory gardner, the head of the national republican senatorial committee said this. oh, i have to read it. if moore refuses to withdraw waneds, the senate should vote to expel him because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the united states senate. all right, by our count, if all republicans who have said moore should drop out expel him along with all democrat, that's two-thirds. i mean, he's out. >> you have to get to 67. you know, i'm disinclined to watch the republican party destroy itself. it should take its course. i have to say mitch mcconnell taking a stand forthrightly, i actually really admire. he did it quickly. he did it forthrightly. it was in the best interest of the institutions and good for him. but the people of alabama, i hadn't seen that tape fully before. and if they had any doubts before, rather than seeing strange women on the tube, see your daughter. your niece. your grandchild. think about them in that position making that same statement. you know, you don't have to get to this issue of exspeming him from the senate. we don'

but i think now, thank goodness you have someone like cory gardner at the nrsc, who says, if this winsn my party have played footsie and fast and loose with what their values are and what is right in order for political gain in the last year or two, has just been disheartening for me. and watching somebody like senator gardner stand up and say, absolutely not, has been -- was a bright light in a political world of darkness. >> and i understand, willie, what kristen is saying about, oh, the whispers. the whispers against serial assaulters. in this case, though, again, when you have cops and other people saying, oh, yeah, he was banned from going to the gadston mall. >> yeah. >> i just wish that when this guy was running for supreme court back in 2000 -- >> yeah. >> the right thing had been done. >> if everybody knew back in the '70s and '80s he was banned from the mall and in 2017, they could have spared the people in this country a lot of misery and the women could have came out a lot earlier if this hadn't come out in 2000. it's just mind boggling. >> and again, banned from the gadsto

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