and i have to say, i was shocked that cory lewandowski said he might have taken that meeting. or him to need to go there. >> robert, the other thing that intrigued me is cory is pretty confident of everything that happened on that campaign. >> yeah. >> through june 20th. >> right. which is his last day on the payroll. >> right. >> ironically, in that period he may have been relieved he was not cc aed on that e-mail. >> absolutely. >> that is when the trump children's orbit was trying to get rid of cory and bring on manafort pull time. >> in a strange way he's probably thanking donald trump jr. >> for pushing him out. >> can i go back for a second? i want to start with a positive. i thought cory lewandowski did a very good job of speaking very declare actively about things that he knew, and he seemed to be very genuine and very sincere. there was no halting in his voice. he appeared to be very sincere. i also think he's got two people that he's trying to serve. one is the president still. i still think they're very close. i still think the president probably would be watching th

and there was a power struggle between manafort and cory lewandowski at the time the kids were sick of lewandowski. they wanted him out. they wanted march in. the kids were amissing power and influence with their father, trying to set an agenda. so when someone like don jr. says, hey, i have a meeting and you should come to it you're going to that meeting is your name is paul manafort if your name is frankly anybody in that campaign. flfs something of a an unprofessional atmosphere in in campaign, a naive atmosphere, an anything goes sort offer. it was the kind of place where unplanned meetings with unnamed people were frequent, stopping new a hallway saying this person is coming by. there wasn't a vetting process. it was not a professional campaign. so it's easy to imagine one of these sorts of things flying under the radar. what was going on, though in don jr.'s head? that's unclear. did he know this was going to be problematic going forward? it doesn't seem likely from the people that i've spoken with. more that they -- they were just in this atmosphere trying desperately to get som

cory lewandowski is still the campaign manager. the kids don't like cory lewandowski, paul man nmanafort trying to curry favor with the kids. so if don jr., the president's son calls a meeting and says you should come to this meeting, you are going to go to that heatime if you're jared kushner or paul manafort. they do believe that this was a campaign that was so naive at the time that wouldn't see anything wrong with this, that meeting someone who was russian that had any ties to the kremlin, that was offering any research on the clinton campaign might be very problematic later on, even more problematic than now. >> joining me here is jake sullivan, a senior policy advisor to hillary clinton's former campaign, former director of policy planning at the state department as well and acting director at the cia and veteran official as well. jake, first your reaction, of course to the fact that days after donald trump really nailed the nomination, presumptively, he, his son and campaign manager, importantly, were meeting with a russian

trump just had cory lewandowski and a couple of other people around him. he was very likely staffed, and he was essentially running as an independent, and i think he was grateful to reince peoples saying this guy's toxicity. liz: i'm going to go around the table and get thoughts. recapping, sorry. by the way, house speaker paul ryan just weighing in on the breaking news that priebus is out and john kelly is the new chief of staff for president trump. here's paul ryan so reince priebus. quote he left it all out on the field. he's very proud of his dear friend. congratulates kelly and looks forward to working with him on the agenda. go ahead. >> americans across the country felt forgotten, and they're ready to see results, and i hope that this move will bring them forward to seeing results that we're waiting fo f. liz: eric whereby what do you think? where does the market go on monday? >> i think the market stays about the same, liz. i think a lot of this is bacon in terms of able to get their agenda across. liz: mark, quickly. your final thoughts. >> yeah.

between cory lewandowski and paul manafort, the trump consider turned from lewandowski to manafort. jr. played a role in pushing lewandowski out. all this will get back to questions of who has been the source of some of the information that has gone to "the new york times" through the great reporting they have been doing over the last few days. >> they cite, three, if i am getting it correctly. memory serves me directly. in one of their reports. three people advised the white house. not as if this is coming from law enforcement. >> right. >> lot of the major leaks have so far. times was clear in its reporting to say they clearly had white house sources. it is another example of how divided and porous this administration is. and it is a reflection how divided and porous the trump campaign was. >> why would somebody in the white house or connections in the white house supposedly supports the president, leak stuff about donald trump jr. >> keystone kops. this isn't a team that is running as a disciplined, goal-oriented unit. it is trump's never run anything that way in his whole life.

. >> kimberly: joining is now cory lewandowski and fox news contributor. i can't get enough of that. he's in his element and at these rallies. you got to live through all of this cory. with a huge victory and vindication with his battle against cnn getting called out. >> the president time and time again has called out the media for what they are. he's called them out for fake news, failing "new york times," false stories they put forth. and he's done is on twitter and successfully. the mainstream media has explod explode, and there is no collusion with russia. it does nothing with russia. now they all agree there's nothing to do with russia here. susan rice has to testify. the former attorney general has to testify. every single time the president has called something out on twitter, there has explode and people find out anything absolutely right. >> kimberly: they write these sensational headlines, numbness anonymous sources, can they even be trusted. he started this during the campaign by saying fake news. >> when you show clips from the rallies, he's su

were if there was courtly went out ok so is cory lewandowsky excuse me ok fine fine why did he do that let me stick with you know why what did he do let me stick with richard here i mean the impression is that you know a lot of people say it off the cuff the clinton news network you know c n n and you know watching the campaign it certainly looked that way i mean this is what's happened with the liberal media they've become the p.r. arm of the democratic party and a lot of people don't like that and they do turn off of course so what i see is we see this growing segregation in the united states and i think the media is driving that to vide every single night wall to wall coverage on this and a lot of people just getting really turned off by it even people at c.n.n. and apparently go ahead richard. so you know this notion about the clinton news network if you added up the dollar value of the time that c.n.n. gave of wall to wall coverage wall to wall coverage of the trump rallies it was astronomical there was nothing there was nothing that they did about hillary that could come close to

and we had cory lewandowski, brian, as you mentioned a moment ago, he was on with us an hour ago. you are trying to dig up dirt on your opponent. every campaign does it. what about this one? he was actually the campaign manager at the time of the meeting. he had this to say about the revelations. >> if this was a meeting that has any information that would have been relevant to the campaign or could have potentially impacted the outcome of the election, i would have been made aware of it. president trump would have been made aware of it. neither one of us know anything about the meeting because it was a nothing meeting. that's why. this happens every day in a campaign and every day when you have a president in office. it is a courtesy meeting to sit down for 10 or 15 minutes to what i knew people have to say. and when you find out it's not relevant, you walk away and say thank you for your time, and you move. >> okay. sean did a great time last night going through it. that's when you got out of the way. here's the story, here's the questions. he also play all the detractors that h

. >> dana: cory lewandowski was getting to that. the leaks are actually coming from the inside. they established that the white house is not under any -- they don't think they have a legal problem but the p.r. problem is sort of internal sabotage. >> greg: yeah, i don't care. i honestly don't care. the more alarmed the press becomes, the more i believe america is becoming exhausted. these stories are becoming so intense and over-the-top. they are so interested in reading reiterating the past. we know as americans that is not about collusion, it's about settling the score. yeah, we might do the same thing because we would be angry over an election but at a certain point, you've got to let it go. i can redefine collusion as the collusion between the media, academia, and the entertainment industry, who have been trying to brainwash us for decades over the dumbest ideologies. we've been victims of collisions all of our lives. the narrative here is that the trump presidency is in disarray. that's what we know. that's what we elected. we are okay with disarray. we elected somebody bec

let's listen to cory lewandowski earlier on the show describing these two. >> is that your wife callingide team right now needs to get on the same page and they want answers. and it's perfectly okay to ask for answers. and what i want to say is more information is better they have to be transparent. here's what we know has happened in the past. don jr. said he will cooperate, jared kushner said they will cooperate. they're willing to cooperate with any investigation, any question. so let's get that done so we can move on with the agenda. >> with that in mind, do the american people care? do the trump supporters care, or are they ready to move on? >> i think that's the bottom line, isn't it? i believe that this scandal will change no mind because of the current way the nation is divided and has already chosen sides. i think nobody's -- maybe marginally people are affected as stuff gets out. but let me just say something about cory lewandowski. i longed for the days when law lou was in trump's inner circle. when he had a person he could trust, when he had a person that was beyond approach

here is cory lewandowski. >> thing that general kelly should do not change donald trump. you have to let trump be trump. that's made him successful the last 30 years. anybody who thinks he's going to change donald trump doesn't know donald trump. >> at this point where there's a bit of a honeymoon phase for a new chief of staff, senior advisers have described to us a readiness to do things differently, willingness to change how their own interactions go. what we don't know is, is the president willing to do things differently himself? will he invite staffers in without his chief of staff knowing? will he make calls or do things that are out of this chain of command? a marine general certainly understands chain of command. there's a respect that the president has for john kelly. a toughness that he ascribes to him that may cause the president to try to hit a reset button himself. those are the things we'll be watching as this week unfolds. alex? >> for which we thank you, kelly o'donnell from the white house. >>> with me now, democratic congresswoman from california. good

from helping convince him to fire his first kachl pain manager, cory lewandowski. >> were we involvedith him, sure. >> to persuading his dad to choose mike pence as a runningmate. >> how much influence would you say donald trump jr. had over his father during the campaign? >> i think donald jr. communicated with his father, what a lot of middle america, what those people were feeling. and his in tstincts were right. >> did he help or hurt his father on the campaign trail? >> on the election campaign. he helped his father far more than he hurt him. i think there was a constituency that would not have been receptive to donald trump but for his son's efforts to make that connection. he came across as -- a real sportsman, who understood what, what guy whose hunt and fish, are interested in. and, reassured them that, that his father was -- a-ok. >> big outdoorsman. hunter. unfortunately wearing a suit and not camo. i would much rather be in a tree stand now in iowa. >> looking at all of them up there. saying i should put up a tree stand. be hunt right now. but, i'm hunting something else.

we've heard folks like cory lewandowski say the president is the president, there's no changing him. if part of the move with john kelly is to say i recognize i need to do things differently, that's maybe the main thing that could be a game-changer potentially. >> all the rhetoric about the white house acting like a well-oiled machine in the past aside. everyone recognizes this is not normal, not only because of historic unapproval ratings. a new chief of staff may be a corrective that's needed. the president respects generals. john kelly has a good rapport with the president apparently, as well as former cabinet members. he served undersecretary gates and secretary panetta, who who have a reputation for thinking and governing beyond partisanship. that may be what the administration needs. the idea that someone is going to change trump, achbt going to happen people. maybe his instincts can be channelled more constructively. >> maybe. maybe. >> we don't know what the communications director, anthony scaramucci, we don't know if he'll report to the chief of staff or president. scaramuc

and a whole world of people outside the white house that have a line to that president from cory lewandowski, his old assistants. all people outside the white house who he will have no control over. >> how does john kelly manage it? >> we keep coming back to this idea that it's the president that doesn't change. he has the problem with the legislative agenda, as well. not that congress doesn't trust the vice president and trust mark short or trust reince priebus. they didn't have a relationship with the president where they believe he was going to stick with one side of it and help sell legislation. that was a big problem they ran into with health care. it's not going to resolved for this. >> mack, one sentence, a word of advice for the newly minted chief of staff. what would you tell john kelly? >> i would say focus on the staff, get it organized, but focus on what you can do for the american people. you've got to get results here from the white house and for people to feel that their lives are going to be better. you need to push it outward, not inward. >> mack, thank you for that insider'

. >> cory lewandowski basically threw him under the bus. >> throwing everybody under the bus. manafort -- >> the president is throwing his own people under the bus. >> it's so unpredictable at this point, i feel like we wake up every morning wondering who is going to be on the bottom here an all sessions stuff over the weekend was really confusing and gave people predict ability. >> coming out from president trump caulking about adam schiff, calling him sleazy schiff, the ranking member on the house side of the responding in a tweet saying, hey, get off tv. the problem is how often you watch tv and that your comments and actions are beneath the dignity of the office. for either of these men, does it behoove them? this twitter war? >> this is just like i can't believe we're talking about this on tv? it's absurd. the president is sending tweets like this, members of congress responding in tweets. the whole thing is absurd. >> it's a moment in time. this is what's happening. the president has a health care speech later tonight but sending tweets about this. >> what the president

. >> bret: cory lewandowski. we appreciate your time from new hampshire. we are just getting word, breaking news right now about a statement coming from reince priebus just moments ago, it reads... it has been one of the greatest honors of my life to serve this president and our country. i want to think the president for giving me this very special opportunity. i will continue to serve as a strong supporter of the president's agenda and policies. i can't think of better person than general john kelly to succeed me and i wish them god's blessings and great successes. with that, let's turn to general kelly. you've got quite a record of military service. we talked about it. lucas tomlinson joins us with a look at that, good evening. >> good evening, bret. with the white house wing to deploy nearly 4,000 american troops to afghanistan very soon, expect newly installed john kelly to fall back on his more than four decades in uniform leaving marines. before becoming president trump's' director of homeland security, general kelly served three tours in iraq in 200

but trump never had the faith in he had him in in like he did in cory lewandowski.ver clicked with him he tied trump bridled at every stage. when i mafrpt was bringing bd headlines trump zaded he had to go. >> here is the passage in which the president has to sprain that he is not a baby. i'm reading straight from the book. by the way this is pretty much what i'm about to read as you pretty much every other page of this book. there is a stunning back stage scene on every other stanl n trump who had been stewing over the times article exploded at manafort. how can anybody allow -- this is trump talking how can anybody allow of an article that says your campaign is all fed up tramp demanded to know furious at had the portrayal the aides were going on television in an effort to reach him. we all remember that. you think you've got aing to og on tv to talk to me you treat me like a baby am i like a baby to you i sit there like a little baby and watch tv and you talk to you am i an fing baby, paul? the room fell silent in josh green's account of that scene. so paul never

. >> the power was all around the kids especially during that time because cory lewandowski and paulanafort of infighting and sultel the kids were trying to push out lewandowski. jen, there is a lot of talk about sanctions, the bill for sanctions is stalled right now in the haus. the white house is not a fan of it. if it does make it to donald trump's desk, is he likely to sign it? >> it sounds like it. i am serious about that. you had mark short at the briefing today talk a little bit about that. i think there would be so much pressure. obviously it was prout up in that meeting between trump and putin. they stressed that. they said listen, there's a lot of anger and mistrust in congress right now. these sanctions are on the table. it sounds like they didn't hash overall the details of the sanctions, but it was brought up as a point to say this is how serious it is in the united states. so, yeah, i think there would be a lot of pressure to get that passed. i do think he would sign it. >> lonnie, the president has said that he doesn't necessarily believe that -- or he doesn't sn if ru

trump campaign in june of last year after seven months of in-fighting with campaign manager cory lewandowskis during his time there, he saw no collusion with russia. in fact, no one in his circle even spoke of russia to him at all, not even over russian policy issues because the campaign, he says, was in such disarray. >> let me ask you some questions you'll probably get in congress. before, during, or after your involvement in the trump campaign, did you bring any russians to that campaign? did you talk about russia or the possible help the russian government could give the campaign? >> never once. never once. >> did you overhear anybody talking about collusion, getting help from the russians, either through information, through fake news spreading, through tweets. >> no. i heard nothing of the kind. in fact, we were so busy just trying to keep up with the sun rising and setting on that campaign that i can't imagine anyone had the time nor the wherewithal to go out there and even do something like this. anybody who covered the trump effort knew this was a pell-mell operation from the moment

cory lewandowski used to say early on in the campaign let trump be trump. it's a little disrespectful now because he's the president. so let's let the president be the president. >> and joining me now representative ted lou of california jason johnson, contributing writer at the daily beast. thank you all for being here and i'm going to go first to the congressman because we're going to do protocol here as well. you're a former prosecutor before you were in congress. >> yes. >> what did you make of -- well, first, before i get krur comment on donald trump's commentary about police and essentially telling them be more brutal, this is the response of the sufficient to come county police department. this is where he was speaking on friday. they sent these two tweets. the spd has strict rules and procedures relating to handling of prisoners. violation of those rules are treated very seriously. and they have a reason to be particularly sensitive on it this. the sul to come county police chief back in november of 2016 "the new york times" reported that he was sen

cory lewandowski didn't have a whole lot of experience. let trump republic trump.ate in the campaign kellyanne conway was manager. then reince priebus wasn't supposed to have a very heavy hand when it came to the actions within the white house. it is going to be really interesting to see what somebody who comes into this job with somewhat of a mandate, with more of a disciplinarian attitude is going to have. apparently, he was promised many concessions when he took this job and he was very skeptical about it. so, you know, i for one am skeptical that the president is going to suddenly let this guy come in and totally run the shop, but we haven't really seen anybody try to do that at this point. so we'll see how it goes. >> heidi, corey lewandowski did give an interview and it was kind of interesting when he said, anybody who said he's going to change the president isn't going to be able to do so. let trump be trump. which is the exact words that scaramucci have used. people who have remained in donald trump's circle over time, they either believe that or that's the

competing -- the potential for two competing fivesomes very provocative in the campaign when cory lewandowski was there, that ended up evolving at two parallel campaigns that were running at the same time. sometimes giving conflicting instructions to the staff and the states, it was very amusing, provided a lot of fodder for the press and created this sort of runger games like environment as eli and i described it while we were at politico together. you potentially have the same sort of circumstances here, not just because you have two presently structures of both having direct reporting privileges, two very different folks at the time, john kelly very reg imted, military background, gets stuff done. anthony scaramucci very off the cuff kind of free wheeling we saw from the first press conference and the now info pus interview with ryan liza at the new yorker, personality clashes in addition to structural issues. >> a director who doesn't know he's on the record. it is sort of perplexing, general kelly, an able guy. donald trump is impressed with what he has done at homeland security. >> that

cory lewandowski. i think cory lewandowski would take a bullet for the president?he weekend, maybe by the end of the day, maybe by lunchtime, i just priebus is going to have a one-way ticket to wisconsin. steve: i think you're right? >> ironically, the job that's safe right now is the attorney general. brian: let me ask you this. does this factor into it? if these two go, they become subtle enemies of the administration, does that figure into the calculus? >> well, let me ask you a question. would you prefer your enemy face to face i'm your enemy. let's go. let's scare off. or would you prefer the enemy gets you behind the back, bites you on the ass. steve: every day. >> paddles your biggest secret, actually reveals the direction you're going. brian: so you're telling me that scaramucci is 100% right, that he identified two leakers. >> 100% right. i wish if you say off the record you say off the record over sentence, certainly if you say something as salty as awhat he said. but there was truth. if you wiggling down the nuggets between the expletives. steve: there's

but cory lewandowski was on this program an hour ago, and he said you know what?re are a couple of tweaks that need to happen to bring senator mike lee from outta board. and, look, it has been publicly reported that there are probably two republican u.s. senators who aren't going to support the bill. rand paul from connecticut and sue collins from maine. now, you don't necessarily they don't if you get everybody else, and you put mike pence in the chair, and he breaks the tie. so i think the bill's going to get done. the president is probably going to close the bill today. >> it's for republicans. it is an epic fail. the fact that they can't get together and who thought the gap between moderates and conservatives would be as great as the ones between democrats and republicans. that's the bottom line, and i think that stunned the president because i think the president's instincts are in the end, get a deal done. do the best you can and negotiate as hard as you can, but we all remember the objective. to buy the building. if you want to buy the building, get the bes

they were preparing to fire cory l lewandowski. it lends less creigh sense to the idea that this is a casual meeting about adoption. >> in the campaign context, if you get a random tip about possible opposition research, you send a loyal, trusted, third tier staffer. you don't get the troika who is about the takeover the campaign and tooting the brother-in-law and the son. and detailed dealings with the russians via the ukraine. this is all a terrible story because it lines up with the narrative, reenforces the narrative, rooted in reality that this campaign had inappropriate contact repeatedly with the russians. >> the real problem is the change in the story, not just because it points to potential lying about what happened, it's the implication of what it was about. >> after ples san tris were exchanged, the won indicated she -- her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. no details or supporting information was provided or offered. it quickly became clear he had no meaningful information. that's the second statement

. >> conservatives are the problem, senator mike lee is open and met with cory lewandowski and was thereesterday and rand paul will be joining us later and they are the ones, just as doug in as susan collins and senator portman. >> that was the talk at the white house, the president giving in interview critical of us attorney general jeff sessions saying he never should every shoot himself, if he had done that i never would have put them in a position. >> jeff sessions takes the job, gets into the job, recuses himself. it is very unfair to the president. how do you take a job and then recuse yourself? if he were -- i would have said thanks -- it is extremely unfair and that is a mild word, to the president. >> at the new york times to do an interview. it is not a guy on his, his granddaughter came to visit, can speak a little chinese. he was going after robert mueller and the problems he has and attorney general sessions and why he fired james comey. >> he regrets he has a feel. he had but the politician very long. had he known in the moment of justice if you are involved in any way with

. >>> cory lewandowski served as a campaign manager and now he's with us this morning. >> good morning to you. >> jared kushner has given his account on paper he's going to talk to to the congress later about what happened with that meeting with the russian lawyer. and my question to you is, apparently jared kushner's going to say, look, i got pulled into this late, i got out there as fast as i could. does this come back to donald trump june juronior? was it a mistake for him and put others in that position? >> i think what he's talking about if you look at his is that the meeting was squd to attend was at the request of his brother-in-law. it was not uncommon for him to pop in and out of meetings and there was no indication of who the meeting was going to be with or what it was going to be about. >> that's why i'm asking about donald trump jr. is he kind of the original actor here? was that a mistake of him do that? >> well clearly donald trump jr. is the one who initiated the meeting and is the one who brought them into the meeting and if you go back and look at that i think he would

cory have a point there? all the folks l lewandowsky, he branded his republican competition in the same way with really mean nameswork for him? >>ing loo, we saw this happen time and time during the campaign. he considers himself the master at branding but look, congratulations to donald trump for actually doing something that many people have not been able to do, unify republicans and democrats. he simply cannot handle when powerful, smart women criticize him. we saw this happen during the campaign with secretary clinton. we saw it happen with megyn kelly and how it happen yesterday, so it's one thing to actually have this sort of lack of temperament during the campaign. it's another thing to exercise this as president of the united states. it's deeply disturbing. i don't think anybody who thought that maybe he would change of course as president, you know that's certainly not happening so it's deeply disturbing and there's simply really no other words to describe what he did this week. >> congressman, exponentially the president, @realdonaldtrump, the handle he's always had gone up from 32.8 to 32.9, now over 3

tucker: corey lewandowski was donald trump's campaign manager in 2016 primaries, he was on the plane yesterday when the president went to speak in ohio appeared he joins us tonight. corytakes a lot for coming on. the president is disappointed that the attorney general is disappointed that he recused himself. got it. what is the point of going on? >> the reason he shouldn't have recused himself -- he saw there was no russian involvement, there was no collusion, so i really had no reason to recuse himself whatsoever. >> tucker: okay. prince ferdinand shouldn't have gone to syria over that day, but he did. so it happen. what's the point of continuing to revisit this? and conveys the sense that he is distracted from his priorities, which is making the president better, and that the staff is in disarray. i don't see an upside to it. >> the president's priority is clear. he wants to get repeal and replace done of obamacare. the vote yesterday with mike pence breaking that tie was critical to move that piece forward. the campaign pledge that he has promised to do and he will deliver on it. you have to hold those u.s. senators accountable. for seven years, voted to replace or