i think his nams are the same as governor corzine. corzine stepped down in new jersey. i find it to be stunning and rather bold. >> what i find truly stunning and bold is the man i consider one of the legitimate leaders of the black community reverend al sharpton adds not declared his support for governor patterson. al i think it's fair to say you are giving him a cold shoulder instead of a shoulder to lean on. >> i talk to the governor today

i think his nams are the same as governor corzine. corzine stepped down in new jersey. find it to be stunning and rather bold. >> what i find truly stunning and bold is the man i consider one of the legitimate leaders of the black community reverend al sharpton adds not declared his support for governor patterson. al i think it's fair to say you are giving him a cold shoulder instead of a shoulder to lean on. >> i talk to the governor today and ned and talked to the people in the white house. the western concern is we cont move forward on the agenda and not do the politics in the newspaper. >> what does that mean? >> are you backing the governor or not backing the governor? >> if the governor runs i said i would back him. i think david patterson has b bn a good public servant. this debate and what he is doing he said he would move forward it is something he decides we should not be doing in the newspapers. if oy will taken the position michael steel took i would be accused of playing the race card. here steel makes the point the president goes at a black governor as opp

>> it is typical governor corzine. did to me doug forrester years ago, and what he is trying to do to me now. we told everybody that he would get in the gutter. that is the kind of campaigner he is. neil: but he has got the money. boy, when he starts unloading with that money, we are worried, because we do not have nearly the amount of money, and you are campaigning on facebook and twitter by comparison, not good. >> we never will have that kind of money, but we are up on network television, and we are advertising very heavily and will be through election day. we have $11 million, the maximum amounts, in the public fund. neil: he has five advertisements for everyone of yours. >> that is the way it was over the summer. over the summer, we were not spending any money. neil: ok, he brings in the big gun, the president of the united states. he is still a big drop. are you worried? >> no, because the people know that his bill policies have led to high unemployment in the region, the highest tax burden in america, and there

chair. >> corzine? mr. gordon -- senator cornyn. >> i strongly support this amendment. i remember sitting at the dais when president obama was inaugurated and gave his inaugural speech when he talked about the importance of transparency in government. he said transparency breeds accountability and build public confidence, and i think this committee has done a good job under your leadership putting the amendments that have been filed on the web site on saturday -- i have got to emails. i have gotten tweets. i have got all sorts of things on things i have filed and other people have filed, and i would suggest that this legislation has captured the imagination and certainly the attention of the american people, and there are a lot of people across america who are reading these bills. they read the house bill. they read the house committee bill, and they are intensely interested in what this committee is doing, and i think for a bill most of which will not be implemented until 2013, it is not an inconvenience. it is not, i think, something we ought to overlook the opportuni

that race between democratic governor jon corzine and republican chris christy is perhaps the marquis both sides are going all out for the win. case in point, check out whose name pops up in this ad for christy, the republican in the race. >> last year, i voted for obama because i wanted change. this year, i'm supporting christie. >> do you want to change trenton? >> i want to change trenton. >> we can start by changing governors. >> interesting. it works for folks. you're trying to appeal to obama voters or disenchanted obama voters. who knows. moving on to south carolina. it looks like congressman joe wilson has a tough re-election. at least financially. his democratic challenger rob miller has raised an amazing $811,788 off of wilson's you lie outburst on wednesday night. guess what? he is hoping for his own campaign boost. you can see he bought a big-time fund raising ad on the popular uber-drudge report and he is getting plenty of traffic himself. speaking of wilson, dave letterman took his outburst and spun it into not shockingly comedic gold last night. let's take a listen. >>

incumbent democrat jon corzine is being opposed by christopher christi and independent chris daggett. a rasmussen poll shows christi leading 46-36%. daggett with 10% of voters say they are undecided. christi is in the lead at the moment, but no republican has won a state-wide race in new jersey since 1997. >>> it's the grand opening today of a farmer's market in downtown washington. that's been the subject of some controversy. the market near the white house opens with the support of first lady michelle obama whose office was instrumental in helping it get a permit, to close off a busy street at the height of the lunch hour. tom sherwood is there this afternoon checking out the impact on this first day. how is it going, tom? >> reporter: the market is great, but the vermont and h street area around here was horrible when michelle obama was here. people are happy to see this market. michelle obama was here to open the market. it's the first day. it will run through october every thursday. hopefully there won't be metal detectors every thursday. this is the latest of several fresh farm

>> corzine, unpopular enough to be seriously challenged. and in virginia, well, they're just -- i think there's still support for somebody -- for change, a change agent. chris: you write for "the washington post." they have said there will be a slashover over the potomac and that will hurt them. >> i'm not sure that's true. >> democrats will actually get a boost this fall by going after wall street finally. i think you'll see barney frank and christopher dodd go after financial reform. chris: stop taking money from them? >> i don't think they're going to stop taking money from them. chris: that's the question. >> they will get a little bit of populist rage behind them and maybe helpful given all the other debates going on. chris: i love the sound of that. when we come back, the big question, what's the biggest threat right now? is it higher unemployment to come or inflation? good question. we'll be right back. chris: welcome back. for the big question of the week, the biggest threat for the country, higher unemployment or inflation? trish.

he could get enough democratic votes from corzine to cost him the race. but then the challenge posed by independents becomes a nationwide issue in 2010. next year the governorships in 39 states go up for election. no incumbent running. and then there are already independent candidates in the mix that could tip the election or flat out win. and the independent candidacy of lincoln chasy, and in massachusetts, state treasurer tim kay hill, and third party bids in maine, and vermont, all states that have a history of going for independents. and congressional lawmakers will have their hands full as well. independent candidates are on the ballot in 13 states. while you wonder if they can win, consider this. a recent nbc news wall street jurnal poll says this. >>> now, have you seen this type of phenomenon before, and what happened? >> my guess is that in this election, you might have one independent-elected governor, senator or house member in the entire country. this is a vastly over played and over hyped story. it's perfectly natural when you had three or fo

i was in islamabad and had a brief meeting with corzine at a motel and three of those companying him pulled me to the side and said you have no idea what's going on here. it is his family using this has a register of this entire country. the best line i heard about afghanistan and the most people who look at afghanistan from this distance think of kandahar and kabul, but it is this very remote country of tribes and an expert of afghanistan said to me one day, the problem with afghanistan is that the afghans have reversible turbines it depends on who you took to that day. it depends on the occupation. they are not going to stand up and salute the american flag because we are around it depends on who is in town that day. >> rudy giuliani the bigger question about the war, the war initiated after 9/11 as we approach the eighth anniversary now. is the united states safer since 9/11? >> i do think it is but i thought tom's column answered itself. it is the premises correct. if, in fact it is the place where the september 11th attack emerged, if our intelligence fails us that continues to

michael steele was making the point that new jersey's governor corzine has approval ratings as low asn's so why is he going after patterson. he is implying that it is race. trace gallagher hit on it but most analysts say it is the giuliani factor. he would beat paterson and if he is governor the next thing he would do is run for president. i think he is doing it to save his own -- >> greg: i think steele was just being ironic. he was having a little fun with it as i like to say and pointing out if you use the same kind of criticism on obama. he wasn't saying he was a racist. he was saying according to a left wing perspective. >> you didn't show the whole quote. after that he said and that is wiggety, wiggety whack, jack. >> greg: i think it is wise on obama's part they dumped him because of his race baiting. that was a month ago. he was saying that all of the criticism is based on race and good for obama to come out and quash that stuff because it is not good for the country. >> in these days, the worst thing you can call somebody these days is a child mow hefter. the second worse thi

jon corzine not mentioned in the poll but in a very tough re-election bid he is trailing his republican challenger at this point by self points. in a very tough re-election bid he is relying on obama to motivate voters, independents, republicans, democrats, and generate excitement to get lem to the poll for jon corzine and that is something that is much more difficult for obama to do when his own poll numbers are sliding. that is a little bit of the news here. back to you. host: thank you, john. we will have an opportunity to come back with our cameras one more time and i would like to ask you to help our viewers understand perhaps the changing politics as house members and members of the senate come back next week after a summer of town hall meetings on the healthcare debate. >> we will have that for you when you come back. host: time for open phones. we have about seven minutes to take calls on any topics. if you want to talk about economics and the situation with u.s. and global economy wore happy to listen. one caller had referenced the fiat currency. i want to tell you about a piec

so far we haven't heard any request from the obama administration for jon corzine not to run again ortter any other democratic governor who is polling low right now. this is interesting. these two guys are going to need each other. brian: paterson, the govern of new york said i think all the attention the president is getting is racially motivated. the white house said we don't want any part of it. we think it's not true. they didn't appreciate taking eye all the ball. governor paterson is embarrassed that this leaked out. because of that, is the reason he was marching in the parade yesterday and telling everyone i'm not going anywhere, i'm sticking it out. steve: for now. brian: one of the key obama figures is the chief of staff election committee he just hired that guy. there is a bit of a riff perhaps. i wonder during the big picture if acorn is not important enough for him to get involved with, why was it important enough for him to get involved with a governor's race in new york? steve: so there you have have got it as gretch mentioned, the president is going to be there with the

like cincinnati talking to organized labor, for example, this summer when he was campaigning for jon corzinew jersey, you saw a similar, more sort of campaign-style president. he's much more effective. part of the challenge was he wasn't spending all summer in that public campaign mode. a lot of the negotiations were behind closed doors with the american hospital association, with members of congress. it was more of an inside game. he was not sort of doing the outside game at full force all summer long like he was there yesterday in cincinnati. look, i think the back to school episode, mike, that you mentioned and this whole van jones incident, the white house adviser that was forced out over the weekend. if those two incidents are not sort of opening the eyes of a lot of folks in this white house about the still resonant power of the right wing in this country, i don't know what's going to. >> chuck, health care tomorrow night. power of the right wing. barack obama's president of the united states. there's a certain element of power there. >> reporter: there is. i think what you're going to

the new jersey race in which incumbent democrat jon corzine is facing a republican challenger and theace in virginia, in which there isn't an incumbent running. it's democrat kray deeds versus a republican named bob mcdonell. and here's where the conservative movement and the republican establishment smash into each other like bunker cars without bumpers. here's where electoral chances stop being separate from the wild-eyed excesses of the conservative movement. at the values voter summit this weekend republican presidential hopeful mitt romney told the conservative crowd there he thought signs were good that the republican in the virginia governor's race, bob mcdonell, would win. romney this week also raised over $100,000 for mr. mcdonell. but mr. mcdonell has seen his poll numbers shrink recently. ever since he brought up his master's thesis in an interview with "the washington post." mr. mcdonell did his graduate degree at televangelist pat robertson's liberty university. and after he brought up his thesis with reporters, those reporters went and read it and he repromptly reprinted

i was talking a little bit about this earlier with dick morris and corzine, the democratic governor of jersey will lose and bob mcdonald, the republican candidate in virginia is going to win and then we're going to have this battle over health care. and couple that with the stimulus and all the things obama has done, weakening our defenses, it creates an opportunity, the people are going to look at the republican party, i have my ideas and i'll get to them in a second. what do you think the republicans should do if they want to regain control of the house and get rid of nancy pelosi? >> the first thing we need to do is, you know, winston churchill said the purpose of the opposition is to oppose every time principal demands and you've seen republicans since the first of this year, every single house republican voted against the so-called stimulus bill. every single house republican voted against the president's budget. almost all of us oppose the cap and trade bill and i think every single house republican will vote against this health care bill. first we've got to provide that oppositi

that race between democratic governor jon corzine and republican chris christy is perhaps the marquis battle. both sides are going all out for the win. case in point, check out whose name pops out for christy, the republican in the case. >> last year i vote for obama because i wanted change. this year i'll supporting christie. >> we can start by changing governors. >> interesting. it work for folks for obama voters or maybe even disenchanted voters. moving on to south carolina. it looks like congressman joe wilson has a tough re-election. in 2010, at least financially, his democratic challenger rob miller has raised an amazing 811,788,000 wednesday night. guess what? he is hoping for his own campaign boost. you can see he bought a big time ad on the popular drudge report and he is getting plenty of traffic himself. speaking of wilson, dave letterman took his outburst and spun it into not shockingly comedic gold last night. let's take a listen. >> guess what the category is. top 10 joe wilson excuses. number ten. shouldn't have gone tailgating before the speech, i guess. number four, y

interesting you bring up michael steele, hey, his numbers are better than jon corzine.d chuck todd of nbc news there was a bit of an apology from the president to the governor how this went down s president right is it time for paterson to think about moving aside and letting another democrat run? >> i do agree it is a death blow and agree with amanda, it makes republicans look strong. president obama runs the democratic party, along with the country, his views are important, very right to share them, but also makes it look like the democrats are nervous about giuliani or potentially any other republican because i pulled up the cross tabs today paterson, you cannot believe how low he is among every segment of the new york population. every single cross tab, every way you cut t. >> like to explain what cross tabs are? >> basically looking at different segments, are you rich? are you poor? are you a man? are you a woman? race, religion. every single category, people say he is doing a terrible job. politically, not like he is up turn out among a certain group and come figh

i was in islamabad and had a brief meeting with corzine at a motel and three of those companying himulled me to the side and said you have no idea what's going on here. it is his family using this has a register of this entire country. the best line i heard about afghanistan and the most people who look at afghanistan from this distance think of kandahar and kabul, but it is this very remote country of tribes and an expert of afghanistan said to me one day, the problem with afghanistan is that the afghans have reversible turbines, it depends on who you took to that day. it depends on the occupation. they are not going to stand up and salute the american flag because we are around, it depends on who is in town that day. >> rudy giuliani, the bigger question about the war, the war initiated after 9/11 as we approach the eighth anniversary now. is the united states safer since 9/11? >> i do think it is, but i thought tom's column answered itself. it is the premises correct. if, in fact, it is the place where the september 11th attack emerged, if our intelligence fails us, that continues

. >> i see in some notes that we have, this could help governor corzine maybe help win re-election.done before re-election? >> i doubt it. the reason i said i think it would help him. health care has energized republican and democratic bases. they are both really engaged now. in new jersey an energized democratic base would help governor corzine. >> congressman pence doesn't think we should have a public plan, do you, congress? >> let me -- >> i know stop the presses, that's a shock for you. i don't know if you would have come on if you had to take that stand. >> rob is a lot more liberal than i'll ever live to be but he's a good friend of mine and not in the congressional sense. i have a lot of respect for him. he knows and was just candid about it. house republicans want health care reform that will lower the cost of health insurance and lower cost in the long-term, but we don't want to launch government-run insurance paid for with $800 billion in higher taxes. what rob just signaled there, and correct me if i'm wrong, they are prepared to go forward without really bipartisan inpu

corzine of new jersey that this was a hit on our financial capital as we know it. one of the things we will explore throughout the day is that they did not succeed. the united states still remains the financial engine of the world, and we are going to discuss how we hold on to that. the new york stock exchange never opened that weeks, waiting until the following monday. we took a big hit, sliding a couple of thousand points. but to show us our resilience, the firms that lost so many people here -- we have now more financial companies in lower manhattan and we had back then, even with the layoffs -- then we had back then -- anthan we had back then, even with the layoffs. it shows our resilience. jon: thank you very much for joining us. jane? jane: what are the lessons of 9/11, and how do we teach them to children too young to recall the a tax -- a tax -- attacks? a curriculum will be tested this school year at schools in seven districts, from new york to california. anthony, thank you for your time today. this is for middle and high school students, a lot of them to

states holding governor races so they may indicate what the party can expect in 2010 in jersey and jon corzinesidency just one year ago, voters now essentially split on the job he's doing. nate silver, president of the political website 538.com, big kahuna and most importantly smarty pants and not a partisan cat either which makes me like you that much more. the democrats have a problem here. >> they do. i mean, most parties when they get elected to the white house lose seats in the midterm election but the trend lines are down. we've seen obama's approval ratings go down a point or two since inviting health care. when you're in power, it will hurt you all the the same. >> am i wrong to think there is the opportunity for a third party going into 2010 would be as big as it is ever been? >> i would think so and even maybe more for 2012. i think in 2010 republicans can win seats i'm not a democrat message. in 2012 you have to say people stand for something and i don't think candidates are compelling the ones they have right now. if it's like olympia snow or david petraeus ticket, i don't know or

and corzine came out and said we don't want you here. and the donald trump organization now saying they have a deal with middle eastern partners and work with them all the time and leased the space out to the partners and they are looking into the matter. but with that stop work order, it appears kau gadhafi will not stay here. >> chuck todd is here, and vickie ward is here. and jonathan capehart is here. and we have the director of programs of the institutions. i want to continue with the gadhafi situation and we will come back and talk about some of the more pertinent things. specifically the president with the middle east and iran and russia. i want to read the trump statement to chuck and vicky, and get your response. vicky, you have covered this story specifically and so many other stories like it. here is donald trump's statement. this is as to why the tent was being built in the suburb. >>> this is a distraction quite honestly from the primary issues that we will all get into. at some point we have to look at this as an indication

gretchen: governor john corzine in new jersey is also weighed down in the polls.ng the same things in that state. when it not be a sign of naivite on the part of the administration for not being able to hide this better? >> the reason they are not concerned about new jersey is because it does not affect congressional senate seats. new york's election would. you are right, this should have been handled in a way where it did not become public issue. that is clear. steve: we just got an e-mail the white house. they do not want me running for governor either. [laughter] quickly, we would like you to be a salesman in chief for pennsylvania. hal brown are you that that -- how proud are you that the g-20 move be held in pittsburgh? >> very proud. we, such a great city, we are not that steel city that everyone thinks we are. is a vibrant city with a great economy, an incredible amount of pride. i think the delegates are going to be blown away by pittsburgh. steve, thank you for joining us. >> if you decide to run, give me a call. and remember, a democrat. gretchen: up nex

host: new jersey governor jon corzine and other officials saying the libyan leader was not welcome there. where is he staying? guest: a hotel that we're not supposed to talk about out loud, and there is some disagreement about where that is. host: you are laughing, so is it in new york, new jersey? guest: presumably is in manhattan. they are not allowed to go more than 25 miles from the united nations, so that gives them most of manhattan and it would probably get them to a inglewood, new jersey, which is where the libyan leader really wanted to pitch his 10 initially. but that is not going to happen. i understand that he has approached the united states -- the united nations for space on the back lawn, but there is not any right now. host: we will go to scott and joining us from kansas city. welcome to "washington journal." caller: i have a few comments to make about afghanistan. i suggest people should read the pentagon papers. i would like to also talk about the propaganda that goes out on the news network. first of all, the russians did not invade afghanistan. they were invited in by