they defeated bill coulter, who had been back to very heavily and very expensively frankly by organized labor -- bill halter. they spent $10 million trying to defeat blades lincoln, mostly because they were upset with her opposing the card check legislation, in legislative priorities of theirs. essentially she now can run against him. frankly she used their opposition to her very effectively. despite the fact she is a two- term incumbent, she was able to tell voters in arkansas that she was running against washington because she was running against special interests like organized labor. host: for those who say there is an anti-incumbency mood in the country, does hurt when go against that? guest: it goes against it, sure, because she is end up, and who won, but she did win narrowly. make no mistake. only by 2% or 2.5%. it swung pretty closely, just by a few thousand votes. if it were a few thousand votes and the other direction, we would be talking about out the anti-incumbent wave was rolling on. she was able to point out the fact that she is the chairman of the senate agricultural co