i always remind my colleaguest e that i think we can do a couplec of things at the same time icanet is, as we dwe can talk about the can can convention, you can have your cake and eat it too. larry do you get a sense that the markets are worried we're not serious about this. and this is still august? >> right, well, the question really is, are the american people ready to engage in a serious dialogue about the country financial future? as much as we would like to believe they are, there are many americans that are not, it is not at the forefront, it is not at fore front is because it is not affecting their daily lives yet, but as long as interest rates are held at low levels because of the federal reserve policy and you have government intervention we postpone the inevitable making it worse. until people have trouble borrowing to buy homes, they are not worrying about financing the national debt, they are all looming, they are looming in the near future, but right now the financial markets have not been focused about that. i do worry about the consumer and volatility. but so far the ma