sucati shaw, sarah lee, jordan davis, roma guy, alexander post, steven naylor, courtney hansen, diana black, jose bernall, megan swartz and if folks could line up at the right side of the chamber from your perspective. megan swartz, carrie lambrecht, marty jay. >> we've been doing this for a long time and we think the new supervisors who are joining in in. roma guy from taxpayers and we're a member of the new jail coalition. so one of the surprises of today, and not to repeat what everyone else said is this renewed polarization from 2015. so i just want to point out that some of the alternatives like pretrial or whatever have really been effective. one that wasn't effective was one of the partners who should be here who isn't here today is the police. because they do the arrests. and so, you know, they're really important in this on what's going to happen in terms of what your decisions are and what policies have to be developed so they aren't the front line of alternatives and/or incarceration. this is a key element that hasn't been brought up today and i think it's true. the other t