commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: , chief, i guess it was a tupel of meetings ago we were given a chart of the numerous committees that are operating within the department on various things, is there a committee i know that you and the senior deputies meet with the union, but are there any union meetings at the lower levels? >> i think there is someone from the executive board on every committee, but particularly by the book i think there needs to be a union representation or health and safety committee, but my understanding is there is someone representing local 178 on every committee. >> commissioner covington: i wasn't aware of that, so i'm glad i did answer the question. that covers quite a few base. can you give us an update regarding the two new captains for arson? >> yes, so they are getting underway in their role. one is a liaison working closely with municipal transportation agency and one with all the housing and development projects, so at some point through the president. i know

commissioner covington had a follow-up question? >> commissioner covington: yes. thank you, mr. president. the general order that was issued on march 26th regarding the training for wild land fire, i just have a quick question rega regarding -- it says members may view the manual online and it says additional copies are available for purchase. that is the california incident command certification requirements are attached. but there's a manual. does anyone know how much that manual costs? >> not off the top of my head. i could find out. >> commissioner covington: i only ask that because the single book for the one class that i took in the introduction to fire science, if i recollect correctly, i think it was $125. >> i don't -- i'm not sure if that is that much. most of them are 15 or 20 bucks but i could be showing my age. i could research that and find out how much it is. >> commissioner covington: because i think if it is $100 or whatever, perhaps there's a way that we can offset the cost because it really makes a difference when you have the book available to you at all time

commissioner covington. >> commissioner covington: thank you for your very first report at the podium. >> thank you. >> commissioner covington: i wanted to get an update on the drone policy. >> there is four agencies in the city that comes from the committee on information technology. there is the pilot program, the puc, park and rec, the fire the department and the port. they were in the initial pilot program. i am only aware of the puc flying drones to check out the waterway. i have done research from smaller departments to larger departments and seeing how they handle that internally, and that is as far as i have gotten on it. i know you mentioned before if it saves one life. i get that part of it and there are things we are happy to do internally and possibly get that grant funded down th the road. there is internal issue. i have researched and i have been looking into them. >> what is the process for us to be cleared to have drone in the department. >> a while ago i asked does that get extended and they told me it could be extended. >> okay does the chief of the department need t

>> commissioner covington. >> i would like to move this item. >> thank you very much, commissioner covington. do i have a second on this resolution? >> second. >> thank you very much, commissioner hardeman. i call for the question. all in favor say aye. none opposed. unanimo unanimous. thank you very much, commissioners. thank you very much, commissioner veronese, for that work that you have done on that. at this particular time, commission secretary, can we have a continuance of the agenda? >> item 7, commission report, report on commission activities since last meeting on march 14, 2018. >> commissioners, is there anything to report at this particular time from any of your? i have one report on the updated meeting on guard yans of the city. -- guardians of the city. commissioner covington, please. >> thank you, mr. vice president. i would like to thank you for inviting me to the japan center 50th anniversary ceremony which was held late this morning. and just a wonderful gather iin and a very wonderful celebration artistically and heartfelt and very, very good turnout. it was a pleasure to

commissioner covington. >> thank you, mr. vice president. welcome, chief nicholson. >> thank you. >> yes. i wanted to know a little bit more about the artist and the art work that's being proposed. is this going to be public or art work and art within the facility itself? and it is going to be art work on both of the fences that lead into the a.d.f. so on gerald street on one side and mckinnon on the other side. i can forward you the information on the artists if you are interested. and knowing who they are. we are doing a walk through next month. >> yes, i did hear you say that. and this is not for the interior of the building. just for public art. >> correct. it will be facing the street. >> great. and what is the involvement of the arts commission? did they or did the department have a grant for this work? >> an i believe is it 2% of every new construction, city building, in the city is awarded -- is given to art or earmarked for art. and so they -- the arts commission basically asks for submissions from artists who are in

. >> commissioner covington: thank you for that update. i know it's something that you have been very interested in moving forward. i think it's essential even though the nighttime visibility using lights might be a bit of a hiccup, i would recommend that perhaps you go forward with daytime. every day that we don't have an earthquake we are one day closer to one and we need to have eyes in the sky that we are responsible. it's very important to me that we move forward more quickly. >> if i could just comment on that. i see the applicability. there were plans in place working with dem this large scale throughout the city we would most likely not be using drones but helicopters but for lesser emergencies to use during the day, that would be something we would be looking at. >> commissioner covington: in mission bay it would have been helpful to have drones you could watch youtube and see. that would have been helpful. thank you. vice president nakajo. >>.>> thank you very much presit cleaveland. chief cochrane i am the one who called in pres

covington's got a distinctive style. a little related to the david levine school of caricature but he took it his own direction. there is very, like, cross hatching in here with a lot of gray scale and they're beautifully done. caricature is a very strange thing. when you're trying to caricature somebody, there are exaggerate features and limits to the exaggerations. some caricaturists are very good at going right to the edge of taking it away from something you would recognize of that individual. covington's stuff is sort of like that. this boris yeltsin is extremely exaggerated. here is senator byrd from west virginia. jerry brown. it's also fascinating when you work with people, sometimes i talk to art students and do workshops with caricature, and it's amazing how you don't always have to be so rendered and detailed. a presidential caricature in particular, but it's true of probably all political figures, can become a simple iconic thing, you know? george bush or barack obama, i could draw six lines and people would

covington has a distinct style. he is a little bit related to the david levine caricature but he took it is on direction. there is very light crosshatching here with a lot of grayscale. they are beautifully done. caricature is a very strange thing. when you're trying to caricature somebody, you exaggerate features and then there are limits to the exaggerations. some caricatures go to the very edge without taking it away from something you would identifies that individual. -- identify as that individual. this is a wonderful, extremely exaggerated, pushing of the forms. it is just wonderful. here is senator byrd in west virginia. jerry brown. it is always fascinating when you also work with people. sometimes, i talk to art students and do workshops on caricature. it is amazing how you don't always have to be so rendered in detail. it is true of probably all political figures. it can become a simple iconic thing. george bush and barack obama, i could draw six lines and people would go, well, that's george bush or there

. >> commissioner covington: in mission bay it would have been helpful to have drones you could watch youtube and see. that would have been helpful. thank you. vice president nakajo. >>.>> thank you very much presit cleaveland. chief cochrane i am the one who called in presentation. for us on the commission it's been my experience that as one ascends to a command level that very often the commissioners don't have the opportunity to dialogue or hear concepts and ideas. part of the reason why i wanted to have you present was first of all, welcome to our command level and i know that you have been part of that. >> thank you sir. >> as all of the officers carry a tremendous amount of experience within this department and part of that is as you ascend to your various responsibility areas administratively, an area of expertise thus the homeland security and homeland security for ourselves and this is how the commissioner responds in terms of questions or comment. it might take a few minutes mr. president for them but homeland security is an area that has grown tremendously in terms of respo

and ed vaultman and covington ould be sort of the next once. the vaultman cartoons are almost all from the ragan era. i think that was when richard and i were brought in, when people were failing to recognize jean kirkpatrick and people like that. i have had the bartenders when i would come in to have a drink, some of the bartenders and the new help would say tell us who that is? they are consistently asked about these people. that is bob dole, don't you remember had im? no. mash of -- a igan mish mash of other work. these are color vault ones. these are water color images. these are obviously done in the 1970's. richard thompson's style is just -- as a cartoonist, and it is just such a beautiful combination of loose line. he was influenced a lot by some of the great english cartoonist, but he took it to his own place. i aspire to this kind of looseness, but i am still working on it. this one i did for politico. this is a caricature of bernie sanders. you can see the difference. do a cross hash with rapitograph and water colors. >> he used a di

thank you. >> thank you sir. >> president cleaveland: commis. >> commissioner covington: i wanted to point out concerning the drone policy that when chief francisco was in this position, there was a huge symposium held by the metal park fire department and i went along with him on that journey and spent six hours learning about drones and hearing presentations by leaders in the field, so i just wanted to remind my fellow commissioners of that because i didn't mention that when i was making my comments regarding the need for a drone policy. i just wanted to point out that i have more than a passing familiarity with this and i continue to read up on the subject. thank you. >> president cleaveland: thank you commissioner covington and thank you chief cochrane for your report and welcome to the command staff. madam secretary would you call the next item. >> item 6. report on the last activity since april 11, 2018. >> >> speaker 1: any comment on this? seeing none public comment is closed. >> vice president nakajo: this would be on the gardens of the city meeting that i attended and befor

then, these from ed and ron covington would be the next ones. the vaultman cartoons are almost all from the reagan area. people were failing to recognize people like that. i have bartenders that come in, or the new help will come in and go, we will go around and help. they are constantly being asked who are these people. they say that's bob dole .ppear you don't remember bob dole? shrug and say i don't know bob dole. this wall is a mismatch of different cartoons. this is richard thompson. that is me. these are colors that are interesting in comparison to the ones that are around the fireplace. these are watercolor images. these were done in the 1970's. richard thompson's style is, as a cartoonist i look at this and it has just a beautiful combination of loose line. he was influenced by cartoonist s but took it to his own place. i aspired to this. but i'm still working at it. this is one i did of the caricature of bernie sanders. you can see the difference. i add watercolor. richard's approach was a classic sort of dip pen. he works in a style th

and ron covington would be the next ones. ultmanpment -- the va cartoons are almost all from the reagan area. people were starting to recognize people like that. , have bartenders that come in or the new help will come in and help. will go around and they are constantly being asked who are these people. you remember vulnerable and they shrug. mismatch of a different cartoon. this is richer cartoon -- richard thompson. that is me. these are colors that are interesting in comparison to the ones that are around the fireplace. these are watercolor images. these were done in the 1970's. is, as thompson's style a cartoonist i look at this and it has just a beautiful combination of loose line. cartoonistuenced by but took it to his own place. i aspired to this. but i'm still working at it. of the one i did caricature of bernie sanders. i add watercolor. richards approach was a classic dip pen. he works in a style that would've fitted in the 19th century. but it is very, very modern. this is another richard thompson. you could see th

. >> commissioner covington: commercial residential inspection we did back in the day. it became resource exhaustive for our companies to do. >> that would have been a complaint that come in for a warehouse or commercial business. in the past there was an active program for commercial inspections. but that's what this is referring to. >> president cleaveland: thank you. i was curious about that. again, i wanted to express my appreciation for the fact that lieutenant baxter had 475 people attend a community outreach in the month of march, which i think is fantastic. march 18th. 475 people. you are really doing a good job. you and the department is really doing a fantastic job in outreaching to the public and getting good attendance. these events where you discuss how to not have fires. >> we average about 15 events a month. i think we had a high of almost 2,000 one month. >> president cleaveland: i really commend you on that, chief. >> chief, would you take the opportunity to acknowledge those that are out there, inspect fernando juarez and investigator janet brock. and

tim and arlee benedict from covington township, pennsylvania. it was 1:00 a.m., they were home.ee kids asleep when arlee suddenly went into labor. tim called 911. >> 911. where is your emergency? >> hi. my wife's in labor. it started very quickly. >> reporter: suddenly, time ran out. >> tell her if she feels like she's gonna push, i'm gonna tell her to get ready and i'm gonna have you deliver the baby. >> okay. >> reporter: are you kidding me, he thinks? the dad is up to it. listen to him. >> the baby's out! the baby's out! >> the baby is out? they baby is out? okay. >> okay. she's crying. >> the baby is crying? okay, good. you just delivered your baby. congratulations. >> reporter: baby felicity was here. >> please send help! >> calm down, i'm going to walk you through it. >> okay. gosh. >> take a deep breath. you just delivered your baby. you're in the clear. just relax. okay? >> oh, my god. >> this is gonna be a story to tell your friends. >> this was so fast! why did it go so fast? >> how's mom doing? >> she's okay. she's okay. >> now i need you to keep breathing, okay? >> i

. >> reporter: tim and aurally benedict from covington county, pennsylvania. it was 1:00 a.m.ir kids were asleep and she suddenly went into labor. >> where's your emergency? >> my wife is in labor. >> reporter: suddenly time ran out. >> dwriem goii'm going to tell ready and i'm going to have you deliver the baby. >> okay. >> reporter: are you kidding me, he thinks. but he was up to it. >> the baby is out. okay, she's crying. >> the baby is crying, okay good. you just delivered your baby, congratulations. >> reporter: baby felicity was here. >> please send help. >> calm down. i'm going to walk you through it. take a deep breath. this is going to be a story to tell your friends. >> why did it go so fast? >> she's okay. >> now i need you to keep breathing, okay? >> i'm okay. >> reporter: paramedics arrived but dad and more importantly mom had done the work already. >> hi, david, meet felicity. >> we wanted to let you know it was absolutely terrifying to have to call 911ut kate the dispatcher was exactly what we needed. >> reporter: and this week they thanked the dispatcher on the

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to my left, alexander berengaut is a partner at covington and burling here in d.c. alex were represent clients aln both enforcement in civil matters with a focus on cross-border issues and electronic surveillance and data privacy but probably most relevant to this panel, he's one of the attorneys at covington who to represent microsoft in the case, and the microsoft ireland case which as of yte ireland case which as of yesterday i suppose may be mooted by the passage of the cloud act pixel alex brings a real expertise on issues that led to that case coming up as follows that led to this legislation being passed. to my far left is sandra moser who is the acting chief of the fraud section of the justice department criminal decision. santos to provide over 150 prosecutors? >> i did know if you're going to say cases are prosecutors. >> 150 or so prosecutors who conduct the largest highest profile cross-border investigations in the justice department and the santa has he the prosecutor or supervise or otherwise been involved in probably most of the major cross-border cas

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and he said yes, he's a person of color, he purchased a first-class ticket, and he was going to covington on the train. he was removed from the train and brought to criminal court. great-grandfather's cousin's name was homer plessy. .y name is keith plessy >> and 1896, the landmark case of plessy v. ferguson reaches the supreme court. state lawued the violated equal protection of the law guaranteed by the 14th amendment of the constitution which had been ratified 25 years earlier. no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or amenities are citizens of the united states, nor deny any person within its jurisdiction and equal .rotection of the law >> the supreme court says the constitution must be interpreted to reflect the customs and traditions of the people. so much for equal protection. the plessy v. ferguson case resulted in the united states supreme court adopting separate but equal the law of the land. the suffering that resulted from was aase being decided national disaster that reached .ut into every facet of life >> the first time i come to washington

kurt wimmer at covington and burling, also a famed media and first amendment and cyber security attorney, and next to him is sonya west from the university of georgia school of law, and she clerked for u.s. supreme court justice john paul stevens who has been in the news a bit this past week. so let's kick it off, because i -- we don't have much time, and this is going to be a great conversation. let's kick it to have with ronnel. ronnel, 2017 pew research poll revealed that the public is increasingly skeptical of the notion that the news media play an important role in our democracy, and even more surprising in that poll was that 89% of democrats believe that the press are an important watchdog on government affairs but only 42% of republicans do. so i'm going to kick it off with you and ask what explains this discrepancy and what, if anything, can the news media do to rebuild public trust, and can the law play a role in that? >> yeah. so i think this is one of if not the most important political question of our time. ive think that's no exaggeration to suggest that press freedom ought