covington: thank you. can you tell us more about the accessory units and the plans being put together? >> i don't know if you've seen it yet, his -- the flow chart, and it's just really impressive, but he can get it later to you after the meeting, but to address actually the a.d.u. question, he'd be the guy. >> chief fire marshal, good morning. >> good morning. >> commissioner covington: if you could begin at the beginning as to what the intent is and how the collaboration is taking place, that would be great. >> so the intent and one of the main goals in the city is to increase the number of affordable housing units. in doing so, there's a -- kind of a push and a drive to increase the number of accessory dwelling units. so basically, what that is, most often, it's in apartment buildings -- it can be a private residence, as well, but most of the time, we see them in apartment buildings. most of the time, they're in the ground floor, which contains the garage, so they're developing the ground flar and chang

commissioner covington. >> commissioner covington: thank you mr. president. gonzalez, can you talk little bit about confined space rescue and tie that in with there being no height restrictions for recruits into the department? >> i have restriction. there are no height restrictions. old days, it used to be how tall they have to be to get in the truck. 5'8". there used to be restrictions in that regard. >> commissioner covington: not everybody -- you can do the job and the chief of the departments downing the job -- >> what you're getting at. historically someone thought as a firefighter, the idea firefighters are strapping 6'4" male. we've seen time after time. depending on the nation we're responding to, sometimes the smaller statues ups it through a window. we'll serve that purpose much better. >> i understand you have photos. >> yes ma'am. i was just doing little recruitment plug there. if you've 5'5" and healthy, you can go for it by all means. >> commissioner covington: i want to thank chief for showing me around on inauguration day and reviewing the ac

commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you. >> i want to apologize, commissioner covington, my report is not paged. my assistant went to hawaii, and i was not able to edit it as much, so if you have questions particular to a certain page, just try to describe it. >> commissioner covington: well, as vice president nakajo was speaking, i was wanting to shout page, what page? and then, i noticed there were no page numbers. i go okay, this is why we have page numbers, but that's all right. i understand your plate is very full. >> thank you. >> commissioner covington: so next time, i look forward to the pages. >> you'll have pages. >> commissioner covington: thank you. can you tell us more about the accessory units and the plans being put together? >> i don't know if you've seen it yet, his -- the flow chart, and it's just really impressive, but he can get it later to you after the meeting, but to address actually the a.d.u. question, he'd be the guy. >> chief fire marshal, good morning. >> good

commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you, i would like to at a future meeting have a presentation by the san francisco black firefighters youth academy so we get a little more information on the trainings that the youth are getting. >>commissioner cleaveland: absolutely. is that it? >> commissioner covington: that's it. >>commissioner cleaveland: commissioner hardeman? >> commissioner hardeman: thank you, president cleaveland. i have no future presentation, but i will tell commissioner veronese that i will be climbing the hills of maui the week of the 18th. five stories is about my max, thanks. >>commissioner cleaveland: thank you, commissioner hardeman. okay. madam secretary, would you call the next item. >> clerk: item eight, possible closed session regarding existing litigation, vote on whether to conduct items 8-b in closed session. >>commissioner cleaveland: is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners, what's your pleasure with regar

commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you, mr. president. you for your report, chief hayes-white. you missed the last meeting, of course, because you were away, and my fellow commissioners heaped much praise on your head in absentia, so i was waiting until you were actually present to congratulate you, so congratulation on -- congratulations on that wonderful award, and yes, i will be stopping by your office to take a look at it. >> commissioner hayes-white: thank you. >> commissioner covington: you're welcome. i think it's fantastic that all of your sons were there to be able to see their mother vetted and honored. it's very special, and i think i have an idea of what this year's photo will be on the christmas greeting, so i look forward to seeing that. i just have a couple of questions for you, chief. the policy recommendations from the mayor's summit, you and senior staff, i suppose, are putting together the response to the request from the mayor's office, and that's due on the 28, is it? >> commissioner hayes-white: correct. >> commissio

commissioner covington? >> commissioner covington: thank you. i did want to share with my fellow commissioners that i did have a conversation with a couple of members of the department regarding the high cost of charges that the chief has brought before them. they're asserting they have to hire an attorney, and they said it's in the neighborhood of $10,000. and i said yes, but we have this early case resolution conference that we've been doing over the past few years, and they said that they weren't aware of that. so their sharing with me was that some people feel as if they are forced to take the days without being able to defend themselves, to be able to mount a defense for themselves. so again, the early case resolution conference, they were not aware of, and that led me to call our city attorney, mr. bradley rossy, to ask him about it. i wanted to make sure i had the name and phrasing correctly because some of these are, you know, very, very strict, and he pointed out to me that we were supposed to be having these conferences on a trial basi

commissioner covington. >> commissioner covington: i move that we authorize this request. >> do i have a second? commissioner veronese seconds it. all in favor of approving the request say aye. it's unanimous, thank you. >> item five. chief of department's report. report from chief of department joanne hayes-white on events within the department sense the fire commission meeting on june 27, 2018 including budget academy, special events, communications and outreach to other government agencies and public report from the administration, deputy chief janeane nicholson on administrative divisions and homeland security and training within the department and report from chief of operations, mark gonzalez, on overall field operations including greater alarm fires, emergency medical services, bureau of fire preemption and airport division. >> i'm aware on june 11th president cleaveland you asked to withhold on that meeting so that all of you can attend inauguration of the new mayor. i like to congratulate our new mayor on leading our city and continuing to get the great support from the mayor'

commissioner covington, did you want to say something? or did you want to go to commissioner hardeman. i see your name was up there first. >> yes, that's before commissioner hardeman chimed in. i think this is a very valuable discussion that we are having. and i think we are moving in the right direction. the chief needs input. she needs input from, you know, a variety of sources and a variety of people. she perhaps will need continued direction from you as well. they all had commissioners involved and still have commissioners involved, as well as people at various ranks within the department. and i think that's a valuable thing. we really have to make sure that people feel included in this process. that all of this doesn't have to come out of the chief's head. that there is a meeting of the minds, as to how best to proceed. so i think we are on the right track. >> it's a collaborative process. >> yes, definitely. >> commissioner hardeman? >> yes, thank you, mr. president. commissioner alioto veronese, i'm just really surprised hearing th

commissioner covington. >> commissioner covington: thank you mr. president thank you commissioner veronese. i have just couple of questions regarding moving forward. before i ask those questions, i do want to thank you very much for bringing this to the floor and for doing incredible research and giving us a very detailed of what it is you envision that the chief will consider in terms of looking at a new model for the department. this is not just a daunting task for the department but it is a daunting task for our society. we are still overwhelmingly male department. men in our society are viewed in a certain light in order to be real men. not showing weakness, not sharing problems and feelings and we're all human being. we all have feelings and reactions to challenging situations that we have to face.whether it's on the job or in our individual lives and homes. for people who are considered universally to be heroes, that is another barrier to saying i'm having these thoughts. i'm having these urges that i can control somewhat by substance abuse o

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we will go to lorraine in covington, florida. support. -- covington, louisiana. support.aller: i just choked on some water, but i am ok now. sometimes i do not like what trump says and how he says it, know, veryre, as you profound differences in beliefs in our country. and sometimes it is really hard to know what news is being objective and what isn't? i will give you an example from c-span. i like c-span from the most part -- for the most part, but do you know that one of your hosts has served on a panel to impeach president trump on the basis of obstruction? it was several months ago, but do you know one of your hosts to that? familiar -- who are you talking about? caller: well, she is typically on saturday. i don't want to mention names and that kind of stuff, that would give it away. host: i think she was moderating a discussion, but i do not think the discussion was for the idea of doing it. caller: yes it was. it was clearly for the idea of how do you do this? tellwere pro -- you could by the participation of the panelists -- they were for impeaching president trump

we started off in covington, louisiana, then went to new orleans, and then went to baton rouge, to lafayette, drove up to shreveport and came back to new orleans -- all in one day. and others would have been tired. he was energized. he taught me about social media. folks would come up to him and wish to have their picture taken. he was take a selfie and he would say, post it on facebook. and sure enough they d and in that way, his contact with people would from just the group meeting -- always incredibly well attended -- to the individual meeting, to everybody who those folks are reaching out to facebook. but even that is not the story of which i wish to tell. we're in this incredibly intense schedule in which we are meeting one person after of another and in -- after another, and in slovenia port as we're talking out, a fellow handed john mccain a in a moment he said, senator, that is fellow who is a fellow vietnam vet. he is in the hospital now and cannot come. and he would love to hear from you. and here is his phone number. so we get in the car and john picks up his phone and he calls. a