i don't -- we don't know when that final result with the cpuc will be finished. however, it may not coincide directly with launch. but what will happen at launch is we will continue the current programs that we already have, so there will not be a break in service, but the actual launch of the new cca informed energy efficiency, the timing on that is a little bit questionable. we don't know exactly how long that will take. we're looking very carefully at the experience of sonoma and marin as they are involved with a similar request with the puc it's going to be very important that san francisco stay engaged with the puc for us to overcome some of these regulatory barriers by the iou's, by the utilities, we need to demonstrate that a cca is a different entity and should be treated differently. that will be a journey we will go with our fellow cca's to the cpuc, but i want to say there's a very very tight working relationship right now between the san francisco puc and the department of the environment and i'm excited to see where that takes us. thank you. >> thank

so that's an issue that's being addressed at the cpuc now. >> what is typically the charge? >> you mean the dollar amount? about a penny per kilowatt hour. >> per kilowatt hour. >> yeah. so as we look at our program economics, our cca program economics, that's important to us because from the customer perspective the decision to move will have an economic impact, even if our supply is exactly the same cost as pg&e's supply, this will have that pcia cost that follows them as they leave pg&e, so we have to strive to have our program be a penny per kilowatt hour cheaper so that the customer is financially indifferent to make the change. what we are proposing here, or what parties are proposing here at the california puc is to make it so that low income qualified care customers don't have to pay that charge. >> what does pcia stand for? >> customer indifference adjustment. what's the p power. power cost indifference adjustment. >> and that would be as long as the sunrises in the east and sets in the west or how long does that program actually --. >> that is what pg&e is striving

>> so they are currently evaluating at the cpuc having a rolling timeline and not a set timeline. >> oh, good. okay. >> we're hoping that with our -- by filing an application during this year we'll be able to be rolled in to that rolling process. and you're right, historically they did have like a 3 year set time frame where there was a window you would get in and then you'd have to wait. >> and because, from our perspective, and the wonderful thing about bay run, as you know, commissioner mar, is that it's a proof of concept. in a way it's a pilot of what the kind of comprehensive programs can be. right now bay run is a very small amount of money. energy watch is about $7 million to bay run's $450, $350,000. so it's a very small window of what's possible but because we've already done it as soon as there's sort of that mental sufficient evidence of launch, you know, where we are very confident this is going to be real, then we're going to start planning. as you know for any program to launch there's a ton of planning that goes on first and we'll have a little bit of that luxury of t

and the cpuc rule that it was illegal under state law. so you're trying to take a service and make it more affordable for people. and the state is saying the law is out of date. so we need the state legislature to comprehensively address this, not by catering to some incumbents like some in the cab industry that want to destroy these services, but to actually conform the law to the modern reality that we're facing and make sure that this kind of innovation can thrive. >> and in fact even the laws that we do have in place now for services like uber and lyft, the cpuc in that chase was playing catch-up catch-up. it wasn't until we had serious questions about insurance, for example, for uber that the cpuc started coming in declared a whole new category for these companies called transportation network companies. so it seems like on a regulatory level we're playing catch-up. >> absolutely. and in fairness to our government agencies, this all happened fast. it came on the scene. and so government is playing catch-up. we have to make sure that

san bruno city leaders filed it today here at the cpuc. it supports the record type but it demands more oversight on the utility. >> and all of this adventure we've been through the past four and a half years, we have to go back to that evening, eight people lost their lives. >> reporter: september 2010. the pipeline explosion also injured 66 others and destroyed dozens of homes. >> 38 homes completely leveled in an instant. a city traumatized. >> reporter: today san bruno mayor responded to the $1.6 billion proposed fine. the california public utilities commission could slap on the utility. it would be the largest penalty and fine in cpuc history. >> we believe this historic penalty sends the right message that gross negligence, corruption, and profits over safety will no longer be tolerated. >> we believe that the penalty is appropriate. >> reporter: but a spokesperson wouldn't say if the utility agrees with the record fine. he did dispute that $300 million of it could be funneled into the state's general fund. >> we just hope that every

sal castanedo is live at the cpuc in san francisco with what the city of san bruno and pg&e have to say about this. good afternoon, sal. >> reporter: tori, govern. you remember that deadly explosion in september of 2010 when eight people lost their lives. today was the deadline for the city of san bruno to comment and to ask for what kind of penalty it wants imposed. explosion after 6:00 p.m. in the crest moore neighborhood. fire burned for several hours. other property was destroyed. state regulators said the fine will be approximately $1.6 billion. san bruno officials are satisfied with that number but they want the cpuc to do more to ensure this will never happen again. >> we feel that the fines and penalties will be sufficient. we just don't feel it's gone quite far enough. we need the independent monitor. we need the pipeline safety trust and we want our attorney fees paid. >> reporter: pg&e also has said it believes that a fine would be appropriate. they -- they've said they want the fine to be reasonable and appropriate and they want a lot of that money to go directly back into p

we're subjected to pg&e's authority and that of the cpuc's energy division. the result is more latitude in program design so bayren gives us a proof of concept. in just 18 months it's touched 95 hundred residential units and introduces new measures to get deeper energy savings built on actual energy saves and accessible because it works directly with the puc instead of through pg&e and effectively expanded on the energy watch model but want to do more for all of our customers. we think that cca gives us that opportunity our long-term vision is to continue to improve on our energy efficiency offerings and we know we can not do this right away and our current programs

we're subjected to pg&e's authority and that of the cpuc's energy division. the result is more latitude in program design so bayren gives us a proof of concept. in just 18 months it's touched 95 hundred residential units and introduces new measures to get deeper energy savings built on actual energy saves and accessible because it works directly with the puc instead of through pg&e and effectively expanded on the energy watch model but want to do more for all of our customers. we think that cca gives us that opportunity our long-term vision is to continue to improve on our energy efficiency offerings and we know we can not do this right away and our current programs again will continue to run once it's implemented. what might the next generation program look like? we know we want to account for and incentivize the savings. going beyond lighting in the simplest measures. real greenhouse emission savings and crucial to achieving san francisco's and the state aggressive environmental goals. it will be successful if it's accessible and affordable and we have a lo

participating there because we think at least in theory it should make it easier for cca's to apply to the cpuc to become administrators of those funds and at a time and pace that's constructive for cca's like ours. and that concludes my regulatory report. thank you. >> okay, thank you very much. seeing no -- commissioner cruz. >> is it possible to go back to item a? we've already move order to item b >> we're still on --. >> item 3. >> we can go to that section if you have a question about it. >> i just have a quick question. do we know how many additional people have enrolled in clean power sf >> i know that we have the sign-up active on our web site. i have not checked it recently so i can come back to you with that answer. >> okay, next month -- i don't know if it's possible to just, as more people are hearing about clean power sf and the web site is up and active and the sign up is working, if we could just get an update if we have people that are signing up as well. >> you're right, commissioner, we can make that part of our regular report. >> thank you. >> okay, this item we can open up

not have a california public utilities permit to start operations but the cpuc says that there is a proposed decision to approve the application next week and if all goes well, there are plans to expand the service we're going to tell you where coming up in the next 40 minutes and we also hope to talk to some first time riders this morning, we know not everyone is happy about this bus service, we'll explain why coming up. live from san francisco, i'm tara moriarty, back to you. >> interesting thank you. >>> time now 5:07, the nba's two best teams meet tonight in oakland, the warriors without thompson he's going to look there, corner will also miss the game due to a broken nose, the warriors have a half game lead over atlanta for the best league record the hawks are one of two teams the warriors have not beaten yet. >> yeah, i know. get better, klay thompson! good game, two really good teams. >>> time now 5:08, scant dal you would think san francisco [ indiscernible ] would put behind him since he's running for reelection but there's a new play about his domestic abuse trial in san francisco,

more importantly i'm happy you will also take this up to the cpuc in sacramento because we have other areas where we can prevent this tragied from happening. i fully support this legislation and thank you again supervisor >> thank you >> good morning supervisors >> don't forget to acknowledge that [inaudible] former commissioner for city college >> thank you. [inaudible] general counsel of the national federation of filipino american association. i would like to thank supervisor yee for this necessary legislation t. is unfortunate it had to take the death of a beloved community worker and bring this type of legislation. we pass rules prohibiting people from using their cell phones, texting, doing anything that will distract people from driving because we put a great premium on the safety of the people and pedestrians and this is worse than any of those because a bus driver who is busy and forming the passagejures about the city hall and other attractions will be distracted from looking right in front is what happened with mrs. prusilla [inaudible] while i understand that this is limit

resources to design those behind the meter programs will be a combination of going directly to the cpuc with a proposal as well as continuing to work with pg&e and as geof said looking at any revenues that might come in from the sale and procurement of power. there are significant opportunities for us to work with low income tenants, with small businesses that are not afforded to us right now with the current pg&e struct

resources to design those behind the meter programs will be a combination of going directly to the cpuc with a proposal as well as continuing to work with pg&e and as geof said looking at any revenues that might come in from the sale and procurement of power. there are significant opportunities for us to work with low income tenants, with small businesses that are not afforded to us right now with the current pg&e structure and kathleen is going to touch on that a little bit but it's an area of tremendous interest to us and possibility as we look at redesigning our programs to reach a much deeper and greater audience so kathleen? >> hello everyone i'm kathleen brian representing the energy efficiency programs from the department of the environment. so that was a great intro. give me just a moment. again, kathleen brian representing the department of the environment talking about our role in energy efficiency, the present and the future. so we know that our energy future will be in renewable energy but we also believe that energy efficiency matters is the first step, the first step and t

for monitoring all of the regulatory action because i know that pretty much no one else is and the cpuc is really opaque to almost all parties. obviously what goes on there really circumstance um scribes the boundaries of what clean power sf will eventually be able to do and a lot of those things are happening in 3 and 4 letter acronymic proceedings that none of us are participating in, so i hope that they are fighting for us over there. i would like to point out that at the most recent sfpuc meeting the commission was very firm about this timeline. if you haven't had a chance to see the meeting, commissioners were very robust on sticking to this timeline, so i think we have support from the commission over there which is great. part of that original presentation of the timeline was that i think commissioner avalos and maybe mr. fried had talked about accelerating the timeline by up to 30 days in this power procurement reform process. since we're going to be getting the legislation late, i think that would be now waiving the 30 days would be almost required to stay on schedule, so just

peavy steched down after e- mails indicated a cpuc had improper community cakes with pg&e -- comurnny communications with pg&e. >>> 8:39. tomorrow is cesar chavez day. some community leaders warrant the collision church to make him a -- catholic church to make him a saint. he would have turned 88 tomorrow. in 2007 there was another campaign to make him a saint but it was stalled because of opposition from high-ranking church officials. the process of officially declaring someone a saint requires a very long, very complicated investigation by the catholic church. >>> 8:39. a peaceful march and vigil will be held in san francisco today to protest the archbishop's controversial morale till clause for teachers. the archbishop is under fire for requiring four local high schools to adopt new guidelines which condemn homosexuality and birth control. during today's rally, protesters plan to deliver petitions asking the arch bishop to promote acceptance and support teachers' rights. the group will meet at mission delores church and will march to st. mary's cathedral where they will have a vigi

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bruno also wants to implement an independent monitor, someone to oversee the relationship between the cpuc and all utilities. this especially after a federal investigation uncovered e-mails showing a, quote, cozy relationship between some officials and pg&e. but the utility says it's already made changes on its own to insure there's no collusion or inappropriate conduct, letting go of three officers after the federal investigation. we should say that u.s. attorney's office has set a trial date for march 9th of next year. as for the penalty and fine against pg&e that is set to go in front of the commission here next thursday april 9th. live in san francisco, stephanie chuang nbc bay area news. >> thank you, steph. >>> investigators are looking into a cause of a late night fire that destroyed four homes under construction. this happened around 9:00 last night in dublin. you might have seen it from the freeway. crews were called in from livermore to help fight the flames. firefighters were able to keep the flames contained to the homes that were still under construction. kept them from spread