helping me out with that is craig bentley ateautiful red river gorge.people that climbed it and didn't make it. >> blown out, a lot of traffic here. along the proliferation of climbing gyms. it's fun, it's challenging. >> yeah. >> as you'll see. >> down there you said there will be a beginner wall. >> yes, this is our beginner wall. this is the one we use. >> this one right here? >> mm-hmm. >> where is the remedial wall? >> i think those are in day cares, things of that nature. >> i see what you're saying. rock climbing is not something i thought of. >> no, many people didn't. i grew up in the coal business. i have family that still works in the coal business. as tourism expanded here, we're really busy here. this is a sport climbing mecca. >> seems is like a lot of living out here in this part of the country is using what the earth gave us. a some of that is coal that's under here and some of that is just climbing the mountain as it is. the mountain said, hey, climb me. and you like, all right. >> there aren't that many things to do. >> not a lot of re