>> host: craig detweiler, you close "igods" with the question, is technology enslaving us? what's the answer? >> guest: i guess we will come to see technology as, like smartphones, as something every day. it's already moving into glass, right? google glass. i think we'll come to see it like a fork, like a spoon, like a pair of glasses. it won't be anything special, but at this point it's so captivating, it's so magical that i think we can give ourselves to it a little too boldly and up critically. and so my book "igods" is an effort to push pause long enough to just think and gain a little perspective, gain a little distance, make sure that those tools designed to serve us are not enslaving us. >> host: so the book's kind of a warping shot across the bow? is that a fair way of putting it? >> guest: i think "igods" is a deep appreciation for the people who have created these technologies. i appreciate how they've helped us to manage abundance and too much, but it's a chance to say be careful that you haven't placed too much faith in technology and ascribed too much magic to

joining us now is craig detweiler. s book, "igods: how technology shapes our spiritual and social lives." here's the book cover but, professor detweiler, before we get into that, what do you teach here at pepperdine? >> guest: i am a film maker first, and so i teach screen writing, i teach production, i help students navigate the entertainment industry. >> host: and you're also director of the center for entertainment. is that part of your professorship here? >> guest: yes. it's a bit of a think tank looking at how media and culture impact each other, you know, sort of on both sides, you know? how film shapes our public conversation and how maybe, you know, students can figure out, you know, how to contribute to, hopefully, the greater good. >> host: well, your book, "igods," is listed and class tied as christianity and culture. why is that? >> guest: well, i'm also trained as a theologian. i'm graduate of full be -- fuller theological seminary, and so i've always been interested in how religious feelings are transmitte