craig fugate, can you convince people with dollars and cents?now if you're going to convince them with dollars and cents but you can with the sheer frequency of events that are occurring. every time they say this is a record-setting event, almost all of our practices of how we prepare for disasters is looking at the past to prepare for the future. it's not work, and look at all the money we're spending. the thing i like remind people. when fema is spending money, that's for uninsured losses. we've seen one of the largest transfers from private insurance to federal programs like fema, hud, the national flood insurance program. why organizations like the pew charitable trust is looking at the policy of why are we growing disaster risk in the face of climate change with policies that -- we're still providing flood insurance for people who build in a flood zone. >> we shouldn't be doing that. >> we just reauthorize it had. flood insurance, one simple answer, why don't we stop writing insurance for people. >> if dollars and cents won't do it, what ab

craig fugate, can you convince people with dollars and cents?> i don't know if you can convince them with dollars and cents but the sheer frequency of events occurring. every time this is a record setting event, almost all the practices looking to the past to prepare for the future is not working. look at all the money we're spending. when fema is spending money, that's for uninsured losses. we've seen the largest transfer like fema and hud and the national insurance program. actually looking at the policy of why are we growing disaster risk in the face of climate change with policies that in tenty vise growth. we just authorized policies in the flood zone. >> we shouldn't be doing it. >> i have one simple answer, why not stop writing flood insurance and let the private sector insure it and if they don't, why not? >> well flood insurance won't do it. >> it is interesting, there is a very strong consensus in the u.s. military that climate change is real. for the military, they see this as leading to a change in their mission, more humanitarian as

craig fugate, can you convince people with dollars and cents?w if you'll convince them with dollars and cent, but i think you can convince them with the sheer frequency. every time they say this is a record-setting event, almost all of our practices of how we prepare for disasters is looking at the past to prepare for the future and it's not working and look at all of the money we're spending. when fema is spending money that's for uninsured losses, we're seeing federal programs like national fema, flood organization, and it's looking at the policy of why are we growing disaster risk in the face of climate change with policies that incentivize growth. we are still providing flood insurance for people when build in a flood zone. >> we shouldn't be doing that. >> and we reauthorized it again. there are a lot of things that we need to do with flood insurance. why don't we stop writing flood insurance and let the private sector insurance and if they don't, why is the public insuring it. >> dollars and cents won't do it. what about national security?

craig fugate led emergency response for b jebh of governor before that. michelle floornoy served under president obama where she dealt with the national security threat climate changesh poses a s the co-founder and managing partner of west exec ann thompson is our chief environmental correspondent here at nbcews and congressman carlos cabello represents florida which is particularly threatened by climate chang and coming up i'll talk to michael bloomberg and jerry brown, both of whom have been dealing with climate change. we'll take a look arias that's been ignored for too long. >> the economic impact. >> i don't believe it. >> you don't believe it? >> no. i, i don't believe >> in a news nbc news/wall street journal poll two-thir of americans believe action is needed to address global climate change. 45% say the problem is serious enough for immediate action, a record climate-related disasters from wildfires. >> we lost a lot. >> to more intense , stor extreme rain events and floods are getting worse. >> i just was in such denial. i didn't put anything up