craig fugate, i know you've got to go. we appreciate you. thank you. those difficulties and challenges that craig just laid out here, especially when it comes to assistance with rebuilding certain communities not wanting to get overlooked here. how do you avoid some of the pitfalls that we have seen in the past? >> hopefully we've learned a lot from what we've done in the past. i think that the lessons learned, the things that we did perhaps less than -- less than well are things that we've noted. particularly fema. i think that it's going to require a team effort and it's going to require close communications and coordination in the team. you're going to have to rebuild power grids, you're going to have to rebuild water and sewage systems, roadways. some communities have been completely devastated all the way down to the infrastructure and the infrastructure literally is going to have to be rebuilt. i hope it will be rebuilt more strongly. i hope it will be stronger than when it was hit. but it's going to be a massive rebuilding effort. it's going to

so joining me now is craig fugate, former head of fema for the obama administration and former florida congressman carbellow. what is fema doing to help especially in coordinating with multiple agencies and organizations from different jurisdictions? >> well, that's just it. to coordinate all the federal resources to support governor desantis' response. the big focus is still search and rescue, getting supplies in there. you already have the florida national guard handing out supplies and getting that going and then the next big step as we're continuing the rescue operations will be start looking at where people are going to stay. we have people in shelters, people staying in their cars and that's going to be the next big part of this response that fema will be supporting is temporary housing arrangements. >> craig, if there's no infrastructure, no power grid, no electricity, maybe not even shelters even left to be able to accommodate people who have lost their homes, what can be done to be able to help these people that are left over as survivors from hurricane ian? >> well, again, th

joining us now, craig fugate, the fema administrator under president obama. of natural disasters of hurricanes specifically, and he's led recovery efforts in that state and others for years. craig, just first tell me personally what you think when you see both the scope and size of the storm and the devastation that we're seeing just in these early hours afternoon. >> yeah, i was on the ground in upon ta gor da after hurricane charlie. so knowing that this storm is going to be bigger, knowing that there were going to be a lot more storm surge. i lived in the state. i've been down in these areas. we've worked a lot with the local officials, we've done a lot of planning. we've responded to smaller events. this is one of those events that i think -- that's why i said this is the worst hurricane to ever strike southwest florida. this is hurricane andrew. they don't have the history of it and everything that is occurring is record setting. but also, we -- there is an advantage, i think, sometimes when you think about these storms is florida continues to learn and

craig fugate is here. that man said this is worse than maria. across the island and the variables is this worse than maria? >> well, the flooding is going to be worse. maria was primarily winds. where we have the communities that the flooding is taking place, blowing out the roads and the infrastructure is impacted again. so where the flooding is taking place it is probably as bad if not worse than maria but i don't think we'll see that level over the entire island similar to the wind damage we saw from maria. >> that said, craig, we remember five years ago how long we had to report on the power outages because of maria. it went on for manies. some places for 11 months why now five years. have they shored up the power grid since 1.3 million customers are without power? what is the status on puerto rico? >> we are about to find out. they had done a lot of rebuilding. some was done really quickly after the storm to get power back and then would do permanent work so this is an example that as we saw from hurricane katrina and seeing from hurricane

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craig fugate great to see you as a fellow floridian, it is just jackson.his morning, we knew, we should have known that jackson was going to happen but when asked about jurisdictions it is just a matter of time. are we going to have a proactive approach to dealing with this or are we going to sit back and let it be a matter of time and say that is just whatever city is next. we know that communities of color, rural and small communities have been left behind and left out of the process. we know that so the question today before us is how do we fix that? how do we make it right? how do we make sure every community regardless of their zip code or where they are will have access to quality drinking water? we know it does not fit all. i will start with you. how do we develop a framework that will properly address the evolving threats? we know systems have failed because they weren't adequately prepared in the first place but we know or we should know how do we develop a framework to make sure we are ready for future threats, more extreme weather, flooding, cyb