let's bring in craig miller, the former deputy police chief here in the city of dallas and worked tooy shootings over the years. how are the guys doing? do we have updates? >> well, many of the officers who were initially injured have been released from the hospital. there are still several that are in the hospital, but i think the department is still reeling and hurting. but dallas is a strong city and the community is strong. and i don't believe that the individual that committed this crime is indicative of the people in north texas and in particular in dallas, and so for that reason the city is really rallying around the dallas police department. i think last night not just in dallas but in ft. worth, you saw the glow of blue on all the buildings downtown. >> it was cool. >> it's something to really make you proud of the people in the community and how they've really rallied around us. >> this process, you've been through it a lot more than i have, but this process usually begins in earnest once the attention of the nation and especially the attention of the community moves on to o

. >>> craig miller is with us, the former deputy police chief here in dallas and now chief of the dallas school district, right? >> yes, sir. >> how do you begin as a department, as large and diverse as this, to recover from this? >> well, it takes time. luckily chief david brun has established a great community relationship in the city of dallas, and the city believes in the the police officers. don't believe all the people involved in this incident are indicative of the people and citizens of dallas tisch believe the citizens appreciate and love their dallas police officers. but in the immediacy we'll have to deal with what took place, with the funerals and the officers recovering and how to deal with them. then while at the same time we're having to take a step back and get away from just the desire to be involved in the situation with the recovery and focus more on the criminal investigation. right now, the police department, as we move forward, immediately is trying to focus on that criminal investigation so that if capital murder charges -- i'm sure that will be the case -- that ev

next to jason is brian craig miller. brian craig miller is a professor of history at emporia state university in wichita, kansas. he's the author of john bell hood and the fight for civil war memory. he also served as the editor for one of the premier scholarly journals in our field, civil war history, which is published by kent state university. his latest book entitled empty sleeves, amputation in the civil war style. and that book is published by the university of georgia press. finally, diane somerville. dine somerville is an associate rofessor of history at binghamton university in new york. he teaches courses in 19th century u.s. history, the american south, women's history and the history of sexuality. she's recently published great grace in the 19th century south, and that was released by the university of north carolina press. she's also authored numerous scholarly articles, most recently, a burden too heavy to bear, the trauma, suicide, and confederate soldiers. this piece earned the john t. hubble prize for th

craig miller is the former police chief of the city of dallas and in addition has worked the deaths of police officers more than you want to think about, i'm guessing, over the years. >> my time here in dallas pd had the job of investigating officer-involved shootings. i was at 75 officer-involved shooting investigations where i directly led those. those included more than a hundred officers from dallas pd, atf, fbi, dea, local agencies here inned it technicixas. i have a lot of experience in these types of incidents. a situation like this you're never prepared for, though. >> never a day like this in dallas, though. >> this will go down in history as one of the darkest days of the dallas police department. such a sad situation. i've been involved in notifying families of deaths of their loved ones. there's no words to describe what goes on from your perspective, having to deliver that message, but also the perspective of having the family and what they're going through. in a situation like this, it makes it even harder because of the cowardly situation. you have to tell the loved one

to dallas independent school district police chief craig miller how we can find common ground.ncredibly difficult time for all of you there. so we appreciate you taking out the time. everyone is searching for solutions. feels like chief brown has said all the right things but where do we go from here? >> chief brown has done an awesome job trying to bring together a community that is really hurting. being a dallas police officer, i was deputy chief there, retired after 30 years and chief brown actually promoted me to deputy chief. i love the city of dallas. i think that the city is really doing everything it can right now, the phrase, the cry of, dallas strong is really truly that. last night a candlelight vigil honoring the officers who lost their life was very emotional for the officers who delivered those messages. the community seems to be so positive. there is so much emotion and support for police officers here in dallas and north texas community. charles: there is and i think, dallas is interesting in a sense from what i have read a year or so ago, murders dropped to 80-