as the companies race to win, what does winning mean craig moffitt threw out the question if the companies able to actually seal the deal with big bucks, et cetera, are they just staving off the inevitable when it comes to decline? >> 100%. there's no question about it there's no competition for netflix and i think any of thes. they have flawed fundamentals across the board whether it's comcast or fox, whether it's disney buying fox assets there are flawed fundamentals across the board you have business that's in secular decline. >> hold on netflix has no competition >> who's their competition right now? >> everybody. >> you think about -- >> amazon, hulu, disney. >> stop. >> let's talk about -- >> stop me now and there is no competition for netflix -- t do you mean fundamentals nobody's watching tv >> no, from the standpoint of being able to go after the over the top subscription based model. when you think about netflix and the scale they have, they only have 15% penetration international internationally. 60% of broad based subscribersis you look at it this way and say if they go out --