permanent legal status. joining me now from dallas, texas, to talk about the achieve act and the future of immigration legislation, outgoing senator kay bailey hutchison. senator, good to see you. >> thank you, craig. good to be here. >> first of all, really quickly for folks who aren't familiar with the achieve act, what are those -- those three paths? >> it would start with the ability for a student who has come here before the age of 14 illegally with their parents, of course, and they've graduated from american high schools, they would have six years to get some kind of degree, a vocational degree, a college degree, and then they would move on to the second step, which would be a work visa. and if they abide by the law and they have a job, they would be able to then get a third step permanent visa that is a legal status that they would be able to work here and have the -- never have the fear of being deported. >> as always, there are critics, one of them nbc latino contributor raul reyes who wrote this on friday, "the achieve act is not the logical place to begin. it offers no clear path to citizenship and saddles undocumented youth with additional conditions for legal status. at best, the ach