for more, we turn to mit history professor craig steven wilder, who has long followed this issue and r of "ebony & ivy: race, slavery, and the troubled history of america's universities." democracy now!'s nermeen sheikh and i recently interviewed craig steven wilder. i began by asking him to talk about the significance of harvard's findings. >> i'm happy to be back. and i think it's been a long road. as you point out, it's been basically 20 years since ruth simmons became the president of brown university back in 2003 and media attention turned to the public sort of secret of brown's extensive ties to the slave trade. ruth simmons back then actually commissioned a report that was eventually published in 2006, the slavery and justice report, that actually laid out brown's extensive ties to slavery and the slave trade and came forward with recommendations. we now sit, as you say, you know, 19, 20 years later, and harvard has come forward with this report. that's been a long journey. but the report actually documents an extraordinarily extensive, deep history between the university and s
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