for more on this, i'm joined by craig whitlock. he broke the story for "the washington post." welcome back. >> thanks, jeff. >> brown: first describe the alleged schemes here. what kind of contracts are we talking about? >> it's really the nuts and bolts of keeping the navy ships serviced and supplied in asia. most of the navy ships are in the pacific. and this company, glenn defense marine, they would supply the ships when they would come to port, they would give them a tugboat, gangway, security, food resupplies, they pumped out the bibof lge and sewage. anything they needed when they came to port this company was supposed to provide those services. >> brown: presumably a competitive business, at least normally. >> a very competitive business, that's right. >> brown: the man at the heart of this is a-- he's got the nickname-- but he's a colorful character in many ways. >> he is a colorful character and an extremely well-known in the navy. his nickname is "fat leonard" because he's a large guy. his lawyer jokingly referred to him as big learned. and his competition refers to