guy, in for attempted murder, doing 10 years, they let him out in 4, he then kill a cop and a civil crand in process of escaping. is it fair? no. kozlowski went to prison because he made money, he was successful, that is what the focus was 92 tonight, sandra on berndty, talking about dennis, talking about those two spent time stewing in jail. whether they could do manage more productive. either in jail or like jail. sandra, he is saying more or less, is, you know it's uneven. >> very much so. he is saying no one has experienced like i do. has been in jail, and experienced from this perspective, he says, i love he said, if i can't get a job, after being convicted and doing my time, what about the other folks, he pointed to 18 year old kids in for drug charges in for many years they come out in 30s. and so, to use these words, punishment don't fit the crime, this is too long, collateral damage, that stayed with me, how can we put these people in our world and expect them to be useful additions to our kenry and economy, if we're punishing them. the and puppishments don't fit the crime, the