scary, we have two guest, one guest is the artist, yulia che, hello, hello, another guest is the crane academyalexey romovich khakhlov. head of the department at moscow state university, a scientist who studies, among other things, polymers and knows well about plastic from the inside at the molecular level. hello, hello, and my first question is a little philosophical, is plastic good or bad, here is alexey ramovich, plastic, of course, is good, the polymer industry began to develop about 100 years ago, over these 100 years, surrounding us... objects, they have changed to unrecognizability, if before it was all mostly wood, some kind of metals and so on, now almost most of the objects that surround us are made of polymer, plastic or rubber, well, in general these are also polymer products, and of course, modern life cannot be imagined without plastic products, so this is good, but there is a threat from plastic , there is a threat, because it is a threat due to the fact that over these 100 years the polymer industry has developed so quickly that waste also arises matching, plastic, ordinary p