cincinnati, ohio, mayor john cranley.ors, thank you. >> good to be here. >> first, let's be very clear. i wish you, both, uneventful reopenings. i hope that everything goes way better than any basis for suspicion of disdain and nobody should have any interest in seeing bad outcomes to make a point. believe me about that. we should all be coming from a good place. now, let's talk about the decisions. cincinnati, first. yes, i've talked to the governors many times. you guys are being more methodical than texas. all due respect, you can defend yourself in a second. but, you are still nowhere near declining numbers of cases, as the cdc gave guideline. how do you balance caving to the pressure of wanting to reopen, with flying blind because you can't even test and trace, in any big percentage way, where you are going to reopen? mayor? >> well, thanks for having me. ohio has taken a different approach. we've worked, in a bipartisan manner. we've generally followed the advice of doctors and experts. and the governor and the mayo

cincinatti, ohio, mayor john cranley.ou. >> god to be here. >> good to be here. >> first, let's be clear. i wish you both uneventful reopenings. i hope that everything goes way better than any basis for suspicion of the same. i have and nobody should have any interest in seeing bad out comes to make a point. okay? believe me about that. we should be coming from a good place. let's talk about the decisions. cincinatti first. yes, i have talked to the governor. you are being more method cal than texas. all due respect. you can defend yourself in a second. you are still nowhere near declining numbers of cases as the cdc gave guideline. how do you balance caving to the pressure of wanting to reopen with flying blind because you can't test and trace in any big percentage way where you are going to reopen? >> well, thanks for having me. ohio has taken a different approach. we worked in a bipartisan manner. we have generally followed the advice of the doctors and experts and the governor and the mayors of the seven biggest citie