>> that is the crawford case. it said that to the extent not required by the constitution, remedies for constitutional violations could be restricted by the people of the state of california. that does not change anything. i heard mr. cooper mention the crawford case five times. not once anywhere in the crawford case does it suggest that an initiative measure somehow rises above the 14th amendment to the constitution of the united states. that is certainly what the right man case held and it certainly what the rumor case held. >> are you suggesting then that gay marriages required by the constitution of the united states? >> record reddick constitution and the united states is the fundamental right of its citizens to marry. mr. cooper defined that as it has always been between a man and woman. the united states supreme court has never said that. what the united states supreme court has said in the 14 cases involving the right to marriage is that in the context of abortion, in the context of prisoners, in the conte

>> that is the crawford case. it said that to the extent not required by the constitution, remedies for constitutional violations could be restricted by the people of the state of california. that does not change anything. i heard mr. cooper mention the crawford case five times. not once anywhere in the crawford case does it suggest that an initiative measure somehow rises above the 14th amendment to the constitution of the united states. that is certainly what the right man case held and it certainly what the rumor case held. >> are y suggesting then that gay marriages required by the constitution othe united states >> record reddick constitution and the united states is the fundamental right of its citizens to marry. mr. cooper defined that as it has always bn between a man and woman. the united states supreme court has never said that. what the united states supreme court has said in the 14 cases involving the right to marriage is that in the context of abortion, in the context of prisoners, in the context of c

>> that is the crawford case. it said that to the extent not required by the constitution, remedies for constitutional violations could be restricted by the people of the state of california. that does not change anything. i heard mr. cooper mention the crawford case five times. not once anywhere in the crawford case does it suggest that an initiative measure somehow rises above the 14th amendment to the constitution of the united states. that is certainly what the right man case held and it certainly what the rumor case held. >> are you suggesting then that gay marriages required by the constitution of the united states? >> record reddick constitution and the united states is the fundamental right of its citizens to marry. mr. cooper defined that as it has always been between a man and woman. the united states supreme court has never said that. what the united states supreme court has said in the 14 cases involving the right to marriage is that in the context of abortion, in the context of prisoners, in the conte

>> that is the crawford case. that to the extent not required by the constitution, remedies for constitutional violations could be restricted by the people of the state of california. that does not change anything. i heard mr. cooper mention the crawford case five times. not once anywhere in the crawford case does it suggest that an initiative measure somehow rises above the 14th amendment to the constitution of the united states. that is certainly what the right man case held and it certainly what the rumor case held. >> are you suggesting then that gay marriages required by the constitution of the united states? >> record reddick constitution and the united states is the fundamental right of its citizens to marry. mr. cooper defined that as it has always been between a man and woman. the united states supreme court has never said that. what the united states supreme court has said in the 14 cases involving the right to marriage is that in the context of abortion, in the context of prisoners, in the context of co

as rick crawford mentioned, there is not a restaurant in this hotel. the patrons who stay here will generate business activity which, hopefully, will fill some of the vacant storefronts on mission street that now exist in that block and will help further revitalize the plaza area, which is already an excellent civic space. the retail spaces will both be oriented to jesse end to mission street, as you see in this image. typical lower level floor plan of the hotel. this is the level of the seventh level where the vegetative roof is. typical level in the tower. the public open space will be accessible in the area on the roof of the hotel, which will provide a nice area for the public to use it and off hours for the hotel to use it for events. with that, i'm available to answer any specific questions people may have on it, either based on this presentation or the materials you have received, and i look forward to the commission's comments and hopefully, your approval of the project. thank you. commissioner miguel: thank you. is there any public comment on

crawford spent the last night seasons with the rays. >>> basketball, the jazz handed the heat last months not going to happen again. dwyane wade stopped and popped from beyond the arc. he had 28. wade to lebron james started to click and look out, heat won, 111-98. >>> off to cleveland, there are plenty of empty seats. unfortunately the cavs anderson couldn't find one of them. he saved the ball from going into the crowd and sat on a pair of fans. tough being a cavs fan these days. final minute, the bulls won it, 88-83. that game decided in the final minutes. bucs and pacers down to the final second. tied at 95-95. bucs mounted the ball to andrew who tips it in for the win. he had 17. none bigger than that. bucs won, 97-95. >>> knicks and raptors went down to the wire, tied at 110-110 under 10 seconds to play. raymond threw up a three and talk about your friendly bounces, that's your game winner. knicks won, seven straight. >>> quick final note on college football. forgive me if you've heard this before, florida gator's head coach urban meyer is retiring. he had stress related issues. now

jan crawford in washington is our chief legal correspondent. this comes after months of investigation by the justice department. what does it mean for b.p. and the other companies? >> the lawsuit was widely expected, katie. it was really a matter of when, not if the government filed it. it accuses of companies of violating several violate laws and safety regulations before the spill, including things like failing to keep that well under control by using the latest and safest technology. now, if b.p. and the other companies are found liable, they could face penalties ranging from $5.4 billion to, if there is extreme negligence, upwards of $21 billion. >> couric: but, jan, these are not criminal charges filed today. are those still possible? >> reporter: absolutely, kati katie. attorney eric holder said today's lawsuit is merely a critical step forward and not a final step, which indicates criminal charges may be on the horizon. now, many legal experts i talked to think those charges are likely, so the government can send a message that the condu

jan crawford in washington. jan, thank you. president obama returned to the white house briefing room today, this time without former president clinton, but once again he called on house democrats to support the tax deal he struck with republicans. it cleared a procedural hurdle in the senate today on a vote of 83-15 and passage there is expected in the next day or two. the bill includes an extension of all the bush tax cuts and jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed. of course, some big changes are coming to capitol hill in january. the republicans will be back in control of the house. john boehner will be in charge. it's his party and, as congressional correspondent nancy cordes reports, he'll cry if he wants to. >> making sure that these kids have a shot at the american dream... like i did. it's important. >> reporter: americans who watched "60 minutes" last night saw a side of their new speaker that's familiar to those on capitol hill. >> and i think the top of our list... is providing for the safety and security of

chief legal correspondent jan crawford reports o'donnell is not shying away from the controversy. >>eporter: under scrutiny by federal prosecutors for campaign spending, christine o'donnell today came out swinging. she appeared on every morning television show to confront allegations she misused campaign funds. >> well, you know, it's obviously politically motivated. >> reporter: federal prosecutors are reviewing allegations that o'donnell paid for meals, gas, other and expenses with political contributions. that's illegal until federal election rules. >> did you use campaign money to pay your rent or pay your personal expenses? >> no, absolutely not. there has been no impermissible use of campaign funds. and, you know, you've got to look at how many ridiculous accusations have been taken out of context. >> reporter: o'donnell says the charges are dirty tricks by the political establishment. now, if that sounds familiar, it should. that was often her response during the campaign whenever she faced embarrassing revelations. >> when they can't attack you on substance, they try to call

. >> is president obama taking his family to crawford, texas his family to crawford, texas for the holidays up stead of ever wish vegetables didn't taste so vegetably? well, v8 v-fusion juice gives you a full serving of vegetables, plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. v8. what's your number? but i knew that i was going to need a day job. we actually have a lot of scientists that play music. the creativity, the innovation, there's definitely a tie there. one thing our scientists are working on is carbon capture and storage, which could prevent co2 from entering the atmosphere. we've just built a new plant to demonstrate how we can safely freeze out the co2 from natural gas. it looks like snow. it's one way that we're helping provide energy with fewer emissions. [ male announcer ] you know her. we know diamonds. together we'll make her holiday. that's why only zales is the diamond store. where you can get up to $1,000 off now through sunday. >> greta: south carolina governor elect nikki haley just had a face-to-face exchange with president obama and asked him a blunt q

carl crawford recibio un contrato millonario para jugar con los medias rojas de boston y reforzo su ofensivainclusion de adrian gonzalez.crawford podria jugar por siete anos y 142 millones de dolares.los yanquis que tambien estan desesperados por contratar peloteros aceleraron sus ofertas por cliff lee y le ofrecieron un contrato de siete anos y 140 millones de dolares.el lanzador tambien tiene pendiente platicas con los rangers de texas equipo para el cual juega pero lee es agente ---pasamos con guillermo quiroz con el pronostico. mas adelante en noticias univision 14....hablamos con uno de los maximos exponentes de la musica de banda sinaloense... chuy lizarraga, quien nos cuenta, entre otras cosas de su exitoso tema "la peinada"" --un estudio realizado en los estados unidos indica que solo la mitad de las mujeres mayores de 40 aÑos de edad se practican mamografias eregularmente para detectar el cancer de seno.--esto ahora tiene preociuados a los medicos.--el informe incluyo a un millon y medio de mujeres con cobertura medica. --ironicamente este reporte surge unos meses despues de que un

according to the specific language of crawford. and the state is free to return to the standard prevailing throughout the united states >> province of the same-sex marriage--proponents say that this violates the constitution of 14th amendment and cannot be allowed to stand. >> california has built a fence are rounded steady/lesbian citizens. and this fence a run the institution of marriage. the supreme court says not based on sex or a corporation is the most important relation and light. the citizens of california with the one fence because of their sexual orientation are denied access. to what every other situation-situation citizen of california and that is a result of the california due process to process law. >> and also if they have his standings legal standing, and the attorney, the attorney general was to battle this. and that is the first question relating at. >> what is likely to be next? >> the appellate court has no deadline. they can make a decision in the next few weeks, the next few months. expediting few probably soo

carl crawford, 7 years, $142 million to play for the red sox.good player. 142 -- >> great player. >> again. they got money. it is a story made for the big street. san francisco university high school cross country and their great coach went after their eight state title. yards from the finish line, his star runner line hit the wall before collapsing because of hydration. he crawled across the finish line to clinch the finish line. the coach is battling lou gehrig's disease. they join us tonight. and we will -- because of the coach, run the graphic if you can. jim tracy has a trust fund. he is a coach there and does not have health insurance. there oyou go. if you want to stick a dollar or two in there. he is an eight time champion. he is a part time teacher, he he is an eight time champion. he is a part time teacher, he [ mom ] my son only wanted one toy this year. i want a robosan 4000. [ mom ] the one no one could get. toy stores are reporting long lines and empty shelves. a robosan 4000. [ mom ] and i mean no one. so i did most of my holiday

. >> the 26-year-old crawford was shot and left for dead after an argument with the poor or friend. jeffrey easley is still on loose. >> she got shot four times, in the face. >> police are looking for the 24-year-old williams. he was on probation when he allegedly shot his girlfriend what she held their 01-year-old baby girl. >> this man might to do anything. he might kill her mother. >> be argument was over money. >> he shot me. i want to get myself better. >> not one police officer has contacted the family since the shooting. she says she wants extra security, and her daughters hospital room. she said of the family has been receiving messages. >> messages threatening harm. >> i just want for the police to be active. >> the mother has not reached out to contact them. >> they say they don't have the manpower to provide that type of security. we were not able to get comment from hospital staff on wednesday night. >>> former mayor marion barry was a crime victim of a weekend. someone stole jaques 2002 silver jaguar early saturday in southeast d.c. he reportedly left the keys in the mi

yankees after what went down in boston with carl crawford upped their offer from 6 years to 7 years forion for cliff lee. there it is. two world series starts against the giants cliff lee handled by san francisco. he is the best pitcher out there available and the yankees have the inside track. andre ward in studio tonight. couple weeks since he defended his title. 23-0. earlier tonight we sat down with ward, and had him reflect back on how he got into boxing. young man, lost his dad when he was 16 years of age. >> my father raised me. he did a great job. raised me and my brother. great, great man. it fuels me today. i feel like my dad should be here and i want to carry on his legacy. >> reporter: boxing is full of talkers, right? carl, who is the wbc supermiddleweight champion, he needs to fight somebody like me. would you like to fight him? [ laughter ] >> if he handles his business and i do the same, he will get what he is asking for. it would be beautiful. >> one more time, andre off till april. lebron james and the heat in oakland tomorrow. there was a report james was walking thro

but honestly of felt like solutions were already being crawford before the study was conducted. mateo county feels singled out on this and we wonder if we understand the underlying causes and current impact, regional patterns and income levels of the people impacted, the timing of the traffic and what leads to the ingestion. a good study will identify alternatives, looking at potential results from each alternative, studying the impact and most importantly, which is where we are not sure it has been done, what are the potential unintended consequences as people try to avoid this. will they go on to streets and neighborhoods not billed for this? we stand ready to work with you on this but we honestly feel that said mateo county has been singled out and this needs to be a regional approach and solution for the entire area. thank you very much. supervisor mirkarimi: next speaker, please. >> my name is francis [unintelligible] first and foremost, going to the san francisco county transportation authority, you expanded $300,000 for this study. if i am not mistaken, $150,000 from prop

bets crawford.sharks get a big 2-1 victory. >> auburn quarterback cam newton won the trophy for player of the year, along with the daisy o'bryan for quarterback of the year. tonight in new york he ads another trophy to his man tell, the heisman. >> the winner is cam newton of auburn university. >> mike: newton led auburn to an undefeated record with over 1400-yard as a quarterback. 49 touchdowns, joining bo jackson and pat sullivan as heisman winners from auburn. >> something that every child has a dream of, that plays the sport of football, and i'm living testimony that anything is possible. i'm pinching myself. i feel like i'm in a dream right now. i can't even stress the fact enough that god is blessing me and brought me a long way. >> mike: stanford quarterback andrew luck was a distant second. but will could be the heisman front runner next season. >>> army and navy meeting for the 111th time. it's 17-7. later in the second, army driving again, this team steelman coughs it up, right to middleto

. >> that shot from christien kafton out there in crawford, man was it coming down. >>> a news station to the rescue in a very ingenious way. a rancher called a tv station for help after his calf got stuck on a frozen pond. the pilot of the station's helicopters came up with an unusual solution. he used the wind from the chopper's blades to actually push the calf to safety. boy that is some smart thinking. at one point the calf fell through some broking ice but it was eventually pushed to safety. >> would have never thought of that. >>> arguably the greatest basketball is coming to the bay area >>> and why disneyland had to turn people away today. >>> and another day of light trading just ahead of the new year. investors brushed off disappointing news and home prices, the nasdaq closed down four points, we'll be right back. >>> boy people are just packing into disneyland. the anaheim theme park filled up only two hours after gates opened this morning. these are file pictures. so for the second day in a row, park officials had to stop selling tickets. people who could not get into the p

vernell crawford was shot multiple times and left for dead on monday. her family worries about the boyfriend still on the loose. >> she got shot four times. three times in her back and one time in her face. >> police are looking for jerry williams, jr. he was on probation when he shot his girlfriend. >> he might do it to her mother. >> the victim was able to get out a few words through her mother's cell phone. she says the argument was over money. >> he shot me. >> the mother claims not one police officer has contacted the family since the shooting. she wants extra security outside her daughter's hospital room. the family has been receiving threatening text messages. >> he said several text messages threatening more harm. >> as for the claim police has been ignoring the case -- >> i want the police to respond to us. >> investigators have that had any contact with the mother. the mother has not contacted them. >> the family says the baby is safe. williams led on monday in a silver fort taurus. -- ford taurus. he has been charged with attempted murder in

he is 24-year-old cody crawford who has a prison record. the fire broke out shortly after a somali-born worshiper, mohamed osman mohamud allegedly tried to bomb a portland gathering in portland. he has pleaded not guilty. still ahead tonight on cbs evening news-- snow snarls the american heartland and fire threaten the holy land >> glor: a big swath of the country is getting an early taste of winter weather today. a powerful storm raced through the midwest, leaving almost a foot of snow and snarling travel plans for thousands. cynthia bowers in chicago has more. >> reporter: across much of the midwest today, a number of folks were out shoveling snow... >> you don't want to shovel any more? >> reporter: ...while others were out enjoying it. >> how was it, alex! >> good! >> reporter: the nearly 700-mile-long storm system stretching from fargo, north dakota, all the way down to peoria, illinois, is now barreling into the carolinas. within a 24-hour period this storm system moved fairly quickly and will pretty much be out to sea off the coast o

crawford said, we have done extensive outreach. i want to summarize that. we had two well attended meetings in june and late july. we have worked closely with jim, with lincoln park neighbors. they are also in support. the lincoln park homeowners, friends of the park, friends of lands' end, and a handful of other merchants very close by to the site. i think all of them are very excited and interested in this project moving forward quickly. we hope that we get your support today and i would be happy to answer any questions. thank you. president miguel: one speaker card. jim? >> good afternoon, mr. president, commissioners. i am the president of the lincoln park neighborhood association. i stand here to agree and approve. it is great to have a neighbor that has been involved in one of the goods stores. we support cvs, we support fresh and easy, and fresh and easy will be operating from 8:00 a.m. until 10:00 p.m. we understand that the pharmacy is an important aspect to any community and allowing access to the pharmacy products, madison's from 7:00 a.m. -- mad

candace crawford. he proposed to her who happens to be the sister of chase crawford in dallas.last year. he dated jessica simpson for two years and that ended in an ugly quits in july of last year. the night before her 29th birthday. now, no tears for jessica here. she herself got engaged just last month to eric johnson who used to play in the nfl. jessica's engagement announcement came a week after nick lachey announced his engagement to vanessa mamilo. the circle of life now feels complete. aret aretha franklin is speaking out about her mysterious hospital stay. she's back home recovering from a surgery she describes being highly successful. she tells "jet" magazine that she feels great and that the doctors want her to rest for eight weeks. she's been reported to have pancreatic cancer. she promises she will speak out soon on what is ailing her, telling "jet" this, inputting aretha together first. this is aretha time to do whatever it is that i need to do but i will talk more later. her doctors tell her she can do anything she feels like, unfortunately for us, doing concerts.

he asked former miss missouri candace crawford to be his wife wheel she celebrated her 24th birthday. she is a reporter for a local television station. >>> the man who shot the gunman in school board me meeting in florida talks for the first time. >>> it's emotional. we will show you his reaction to being called a hero and his thoughts moments before he took shooter down. naturally colorful vegetables are often a good source of vitamins, fiber, or minerals. and who brings you more natural colors than campbell's condensed soups? campbell's.® it's amazing what soup can do.™ ever wish vegetables didn't taste so vegetably? well, v8 v-fusion juice gives you a full serving of vegetables, plus a full serving of fruit. but it just tastes like fruit. v8. what's your number? >>> a water main break in baltimore city is maybing this friday morning commute more than a bit of a headache than usual. >>> listen to this. there is a big reward this morning if you can help police find who beat and starved this pit bull. >>> and that heater keeping you warm but not careful -- be careful it doesn't get to

our legal correspondent, jan greenberg-- jan crawford-- won a trifecta. she predicted justice stevens would retire, that elena kagan would be confirmed and that alabama would win the national football championship. the only person who had wrong prediction was the moderator, i thought t.c.u. would win the fiesta bowl. for some strange reason, they didn't. i'm going to double down. for my prediction i'm going to say they are going to beat wisconsin in the rose bowl this year. chip, what's your prediction? >> well, bob, the phillies will win the world series with their blockbuster lineup. on much more important note, i think joe biden is to some degree going to win the battle over afghanistan. he said recently that in july the president will announce something more than a token withdrawal. i think he's right. >> schieffer: nancy? >> i predict after initial rough patch democrats and republicans in congress are going to work together better than anyone expects, and that the debt is going to be the issue that brings them together. >> i think after initial patch

home of a man considered a person of interest in the case of arson at a mosque. 24-year-old cody crawford lives just down the street from the islamic center in carvales which was firebombed last friday. he is accused of detonating a car bomb last month. he often worshipped at that islamic center. >>> we're giving you a look at san jose. dry tonight, but rain is coming toward us. we're tracking the wet weather, and how is it going to look, jeff? >> we're looking at possibly a quarter to a half inch as we head into parts of your weekend. right now it is dry in the south bay as we just saw on that skyg camera, but we are tracking a few showers right now in the north bay. verykyvery light. we haven't seen too much today veth t se scattered showers. thght on highway 101 from petaluma to santa rosa, we're tracking those light showers at this time. stso for those of you in the bay fromea danville into walnut creek and livermore as well, currently lkiy at dry conditions. not much here in the south bay asell, however, our next storm system isow n 714 miles offshore. what will this n mean for our w

candace crawford.ture of the couple and chase crawford, her brother star of "gossip girl." >> tony romo's ex jessica simpson just got engaged and his ex nick lachey just got married. >> congratulations to them all and mariah carey and expecting twins, of course. revealed this on a news show -- on a radio show on thursday. we knew she was pregnant. didn't know she would have twins. she told the secret to who first? president and first lady earlier this week at a tree lighting ceremony. the babies and she are doing just fine. >> she referred to the babies as they at one point and somebody said, no, i don't want to call it an it. >>> hot party hoegsed by daddy out of control in new york. had the producers cracking up this morning. here you go. a lot of ladies sitting around with, you know, with the man. some of them in the hot tub surrounded by candles when, guess what happens. wow. is it a little not here for me? poor girl's hair is on fire. thank god she was in fire. >> get the camera off! >> so mean. t

>> reporter: but fern and marketer liz crawford are really zeroing in on those items not on the list that still end up in the shopping cart. >> oh, this. i always run out of this. oh, and chocolate is on sale. it doesn't get any better than this. >> reporter: anything you didn't plan on buying that you have in your cart right now? >> the chocolate cream pie, the oreos. >> reporter: every shopper they follow through these aisles provides valuable clues about how we all can be tempted to spend. >> but i just may go with the happy elephant with his trunk up, so, again, it's packaging. >> and there it is. >> reporter: the happy elephant sold it. >> that's right. that's the close. >> reporter: their research helps big companies tap into our most basic instincts. >> we are ready to take advantage of our environments, probably just like we did thousands of years ago. >> reporter: so conditioned, in fact, that most of us, without knowing it, budget up to a third of our grocery money on impulse buys. >> do you have any idea, about a rough ballpark, of how much money you're going to spend? >>

crawford now the guy in net for the blackhawks now that antti niemi is wearing tale. niemi tested later when the blackhawks control the puck. henry past niemi. he made 28 saves on the night, but the one able to just trickle through. they went overtime. still tied at 1. there it ended quickly. marc-edouard vlasic to clowe, clowe with both goals adds the sharks win 2-1. the sharks in a crowded three way tie for second in the pacific division. but, just two points

una vez los red sox afianzaron a carl crawford, los yanquis ahora persiguen a un toletero y le quieren de semana si usted pensÓ que habÍa experimentado una de las tormentas mÁs fuertes por aquÍ, tenemos otro sistema que promete para este fin de semana en medio oeste, y en noreste nuevamente recibir actividad y nieve. tenemos la temperatura en 29 en nueva york. ciertas condiciones muy heladas es que tenemos varios factores, obviamente esta masa del aire del Ártico con el factor viento, en chicago se sienten consagrados. continuamos con esta ola de calor, tenemos estÁ corriente en chorro. por aquÍ tenemos aviso de condiciones invernales hacia toda la parte oeste de los grandes lagos, especialmente minneapolis y wisconsin. todo luce bastante tranquilo en el suroeste. no serÁ el caso para los residentes de kentucky, y no -hasta nueva inglaterra. si esta ola de calor prÁcticamente para toda la naciÓn. nos quedamos con complicaciones en todo el noreste en medio este y el noreste del paÍs, ♪ >> mucha atenciÓn para los adictos al tabaco, hay una nueva razÓn para dejar el hÁbito de una vez y po

tonight one of this winter's most high- profiled free agents reached an agreement with the red sox, crawford gets $142 over 7 years to play for the team who this week acquired adrian gonzalez from the padre. numbers boggle your mind. >> it is. thank you. >>> be sure to join the ktvu morning news at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow. we'll have the latest on the morning commute and the overnight news developments. good night. >> good night.

tonight one of this winter's most high- profiled free agents reached an agreement with the red sox, crawford gets $142 over 7 years to play for the team who this week acquired adrian gonzalez from the padre. numbers boggle your mind. >> it is. thank you. >>> be sure to join the ktvu morning news at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow. we'll have the latest on the morning

his fiance is candace crawford, a local the reporter and you may remember romo popped the question on the 24th birthday and you may remember he had high-profile romances with carrie underwood and with jessica simpson who announced her own engagement to former nfl player eric johnson. >> the talk of the town on tmz. mayweather arrested in las vegas last night. the tmz executive producer is live in l.a. and what in the world did he do? >> reporter: well, wisdom, he went to the wrong casino, i can tell you that much he was at a casino in vegas and one of the security guards recognized him and knew there was a warrant out for his arrest. a photographer alleged floyd mayweather punk error returned him and assaulted him earlier in vegas in the month and the cops came to arrest him and the best part, he gets out on his own from jail and decides to leave the jail in style in a fancy white rolls-royce. >> even when arrested, trying to be stylish and light talk about tori spelling. she got kicked out of a beverlyly hills restaurant. what did she do? i want to be fair. she didn't get kicked out.