crays thompson i should disclose i'm on kettering's board i'm not that good of a member but i'm a member of the board. so he did to under rad witness work at dartmouth and competed for alichices in u.s. lichic in 1972 and to not make it. this did well as a result of that. and he did his under grad witness work at dartmouth and university of pennsylvania and medical school and he holds 30 patents in immuno therapy. his wife is also in the family business, an md-phd and cancer researcher. okay. and kurt newman is a member of the club. okay? kurt is, was an athlete as well as a payable player in high school. and he's going to duke university medical school and trained at childrens hospital in post on, and harvard medical school and came in 1984 to childrens hospital. he's opinion surgeon of chief at joseph roberts surgical center there for pediatric innovation. and his wife is also in the family business, neo natal nurse practitioner. okay. wow. very impressive back grounds. so let me ask you the first question. do you, when you go to a cocktail party do people say i have a hurt here? this