how is that createed? in a laboratory subjecting it to radiation and chemicals. that's organic. john: one mutation was the stuff we like. >> one mutation out of thousands over eight years of laboratory study, now it's called organic. now we can reduce it to one, test it in a laboratory, evaluate it, we know it's safe and effective. the european commission said it's safer than conventional. >> the grapefruit was actually, yes, texas ruby red grapefruits came from an irradiation, mutation breeding, all that doess . >> we support a ban on that. john: i tricked you here, you took chemistry, right? what's di hydrogen monoxide. >> water. john: water, talking about water. >> banning water. john: too much kills people. >> we don't support banning water on this program and neither does liz reitzig, she is upset about the chemicals on food. on her blog she writes articles like symphony of the soil, raw milk. the evil of chemicals like gly phosphate. you want to buy organic food. >> exactly, it is a win, win, win situation. john: does that mean it's filled with chemicals? >> one is organic

. >> well today was a momentous day for jackie spear the 25th anniversary of an event she createed to anchor carolyn tyler was there and brings you some of the excitement. >> 5000 women are celebrating the silver anniversary of the professional business women of california conference. there are seminar workshop and an expo. congresswoman jackie followed her instinct 25 years ago. in creating an event that is now a special day of empowerment. >> i think developing confidence. security. if doing the networking opportunity. running -- learning how to better position yourself in a corporation. taking risk. >> many of those we talk to call the conference inspiratio inspirational. and say it it show cases the growing camaraderie among women in the workplace. i'm in a man's world and when you start working with women you realize that you have to unite and support one another. >> i definitely find it easier now than it was when i started. >> but despite drastically mat ick change the glass ceiling remains a reality. >> we see a lot more women engineer. more women doctors. but i still think it

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