houston, texas, world changers ministries, creflo dollar, 30,000, college park georgia. the potters house td jakes 30,000, dallas, texas. are those prosperity gospel churches, doctor? >> absolutely. any of the ones, the kind of hopeful shorthand to where to find these churches are all prosperity churches and most of them will make the top 50 of the largest churches in the country. >> all tax-exempt? >> are entrepreneurial in spirit. the churches themselves are tax-exempt but with the typically do is they split the church into for-profit and proper when. td jakes has td jakes church enterprises. is a great example because he's a producer, probably a writer, a film writer and he and has all kinds of thinkers in different pots. >> that's the taxable side? >> that's right. they will say don't look at me necessarily as an example of someone who's taking money out of the coffers. most of my money comes from this other wing. that is sometimes true for some and its luster for others. they don't really have to justify how much money they make in part because of the theological st