if you want to have a good read, if you have not done this, google michael creighton commonwealth 2003, environmentalism. a mega- successful, the same day barack obama was elected president. i don't know what that means. you know, heknow, he produced er, wrote and produced and directed jurassic park, lost world. who knows how many millions of dollars. nonetheless, a pretty sure that -- pretty fearless guy. the home of the sierra club. it's an open forum, and is asked to give a talk on the most pressing issue of the day. thethe challenge is given to all of the speakers in the series. for creighton he comes in and says, the most pressing issue of the day is the need to distinguish fact from fantasy. to distinguish truth from propaganda. what is he talking about? and then he walks them through a theological construct of the environmental movement, all of which are apocalyptic and design, all of which begin with this state of nature that is unspoiled by man. take someman. take some step by step by step walking through the scientific aspects starting with racial carson and ddt which is mayb