but cresta. >> but it's not appeasement. you've had a war for three years and then you go, right, let's come to some sort of peaceful settlement. you mean they've already had it? it's not an appeasement. that is how wars end. and they usually begin with some sort of unwarranted. they usually. >> end with a victory, usually. >> end with a victory, usually. >> no. >> no. >> or someone afghanistan. i mean, let's do another analogy would be afghanistan, where russia did withdraw. >> yeah. that was that was one example. absolutely. after ten years of stalemate and going nowhere, the first world war ended with with a negotiated settlement after germany had not withdrawn beyond their own borders and were forced into, you know, an unequal peace that prepared the ground for the second world war. there are all kinds of different examples, is my point. >> that's a good analogy. >> that's a good analogy. >> go to the only one that anyone seems to know anything. >> about, i guess. i mean, i, i agree with you that that is just the it's th

but cresta. >> but it's not appeasement.if you've had a war for three years and then you go, right, let's come to some sort of peaceful settlement. you mean they've already had it? it's not an appeasement. that is how wars end. and they usually begin with some sort of unwarranted. they usually. >> end with a victory, usually. >> end with a victory, usually. >> no. >> no. >> or someone afghanistan. i mean, let's do another analogy would be afghanistan, where russia did withdraw. >> yeah. that was that was one example. absolutely. after ten years of stalemate and going nowhere, the first world war ended with with a negotiated settlement after germany had not withdrawn beyond their own borders and were forced into, you know, an unequal peace that prepared the ground for the second world war. there are all kinds of different examples, is my point. >> that's a good analogy. >> that's a good analogy. >> go to the only one that anyone seems to know anything. >> about, i guess. i mean, i, i agree with you that that is just the it's