hello bart nice to be here again well cripps assignment became one of the largest conference in europe in the blog chain. this year and it's been very special because this time also swiss politician and policy makers state secretary joint life it's a conference and this itself is actually quite a statement. also you know it was interesting to see how different perspectives for example he had their timoci trait for you know that in famous u.s. investor and it was quite five years he sees that he is perspective and he how she sees switzerland you know it's completely different says those of politicians that states that the secretary and so on so she pointed out since was silent so it's sort of this kind of flows in a little bit the steam in the overall race was a global gluckstein helped right and we actually out of switzerland had completely is different because it's a v.c. i was self as if. you know global top of crypt finance right so it was quite interesting you know just changes of perspective well there's lots that we had a guest on yesterday who you know jawan lee from from next c