follow you, you know, because if you're advocating eating a hamburger with fried donuts or using criscol if you are an educated chef which is, i think, the operating word is there's -- you are what you eat and at the end of the day, you know, you pay the consequences. so this hypocrisy is really what's upsetting a lot of people. >> to educate our viewers, type 2 diabetes is a genetic link but also is there -- or is it all solely because of what you put in your body? >> i would argue that 90% of type 2 diabetes that affects about 23 million people is a generational disease secondary to obesity. basically at the end of the day, when you gain so much weight, you marbleize your tissue, your insulin is not able to metabolize the sugar and therefore, basically, is created -- there's a lot of parts in the world where they treat type 2 diabetes by having bariatric surgery. >> if she ate healthy she could technically get rid of diabetes. >> if she ate different. i don't think you'll find major chefs around the country who really cook with, you know, with nutrition in mind that in reality end up