when i started in one thousand nine hundred one that you have to be sensitive to and satisfy wasn't crisil one of the leaders in employee getting involved employees getting involved with management yeah i think you know when i was there i was privileged to to get to know ron gettelfinger who was the president of the u.a.w. now ron and i still stay in touch you know at least once a month and we're we both retired from that business but if it wasn't for ron and his executive board and the understanding in the commitment of those employees into that running walter ruther known no this was this was posted and so if it wasn't for his leadership his executive team in the employees the u.a.w. you know we may not have been able to save chrysler through that economic downturn when the financial institutions melted down or ok to start markets they say it always has curves right is it going to go down well we've all been we've all been anticipating at each of these record setting loves us you know when are we going to get that ten percent adjustment or twenty percent adjustment and it continues to el