i remember when pat croce had the '6ers. the one time croce made a basketball decision, he banned larry brown from bringing back derrick coleman because derrick coleman had refused to go to children's hospital on a team trip, and croce said -- i think rightly -- "you can't win a championship with guys who don't go to children's hospital." and i think -- i think chip subscribes to that kind of -- he got rid of desean jackson last year, gets rid of shady. i happen to be fans of both guys 'cause of their amazing talent. but they weren't his guys, in terms of their off-field commitments. >> do we think he gets mariota? >> that's the sanguine way of looking at it. and, you know, yep, character, but it's almost like a vladimir putin-esque kind of move because the man wants what the man wants, and if he doesn't like you, you're gone. and that to me is -- that's not what dick vermeil did. i mean, it seemed like he gave people a chance, an opportunity, and shady mccoy was not desean. >> if he wins the big ones everything will be forg