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there's a couple of crocs floating in a pool the only thing he says is soon crocs liked it some silicone encouraging workers to be social activists and take a stand on political issues. tyler, i think i just stole your tease. the story of one company that's not doing this the ceo telling pl inin ining ep your opinions to yourself or pack your desk >>> as we're head into the most contentious presidential elections ever, politics is on everyone's minds you better express your views if if you work for coin base. kate rooney has more on the policy and those offer who just don't like it. hey, kate. >> tyler, the ceo wants his employees to know they're in the cryptocurrency business, not the business of social activism. he made the view clear this week armstrong says coinbase won't debate causes or political candidates internally and will not engage in things unrelated to the core mission. he points continue to ternl stri internal strife at other businesses that do engage in these issues he offered them about four to six months of sefrverance if th decide to quit because of that new policy he
there's a couple of crocs floating in a pool the only thing he says is soon crocs liked it some silicone encouraging workers to be social activists and take a stand on political issues. tyler, i think i just stole your tease. the story of one company that's not doing this the ceo telling pl inin ining ep your opinions to yourself or pack your desk >>> as we're head into the most contentious presidential elections ever, politics is on everyone's minds you better express your views if if...
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joining us now for money on a cnbc exclusive is crocs ceo andrew rees.were high and you surpassed them we have been covering the collaborations is that what is making crocs cool again >> it is one of the important factors. you talked about in your introduction there the clap rigs we released with justin bieber if you will be over the last 12 weeks we released 12 different collaborations with different entities around the world. justin was one of the biggest ones with his own in-house brand drew house, and that's an important factor but there is a lot of other things we are doing right relative to products, relative to distribution, pricing and promotion as well. it is one of the important factors. >> talk about some of those things you are doing, particularly as it relates to the kind of outlook that you gave wall street it wasn't formal guidance but i think you said double digit sales growth into the holiday season how do you see that happening? >> in q 3 we achieved 16% sales greta on a global basis, exceptional in these times as we look to q 4 we are
joining us now for money on a cnbc exclusive is crocs ceo andrew rees.were high and you surpassed them we have been covering the collaborations is that what is making crocs cool again >> it is one of the important factors. you talked about in your introduction there the clap rigs we released with justin bieber if you will be over the last 12 weeks we released 12 different collaborations with different entities around the world. justin was one of the biggest ones with his own in-house...
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i have been wearing crocs since the beginning of time. >> he teased it posting a photograph of crocsfloating in a pool. croc stock jumped 13%. it was good for the company. they feature eight charms, you plug into the holes. and at $60 each. they sold out with in hours. obviously, i mean. >> they are so ugly. >> they are. they are comfortable. >> i guess. >> i have to say. i may have a pair. >> do you have a pair? >> not those ones. i may have a pair. i may. >> for christmas i will get you the cheesy little charms to put in them. >> the justin bieber buttons. >> four minutes before six and a different kind of wedding party going through the streets of california. . >> one hour into a red flag warning. i can tell you who will loose power and why o-cedar? because when i get home, we like to play crocodile on the floor. promist max's pad removes over 99% of bacteria, with just water. better cleaning with less waste. o-cedar. it feels great to feel at home. . >>> right now, here we go again. hot weather and fire danger making a big return. the red flag warning now in effect. >> i just wan
i have been wearing crocs since the beginning of time. >> he teased it posting a photograph of crocsfloating in a pool. croc stock jumped 13%. it was good for the company. they feature eight charms, you plug into the holes. and at $60 each. they sold out with in hours. obviously, i mean. >> they are so ugly. >> they are. they are comfortable. >> i guess. >> i have to say. i may have a pair. >> do you have a pair? >> not those ones. i may have a pair. i...
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that sent croc shares up 10% good brigrief.oose at that, up almost 1.5%. >>> if you're trying to buy a new house, you better act quick, and you better be ready to pay up they're also being scooped up 12 days faster than last year prices up 10% there's a lot in there our diana olick has more. >> reporter: this was the scene from a front-door camera at a newly listed home. >> we knew we would be getting offers for it, but it was not like the ohm and volume of interest. >> they put their house on the market in august immediately got questions for showings. >> 301 days, then 500 the next day. >> reporter: they got so much interest, they decided to screen potentially buyers for financials first, and then line them up around the block. >> for six days we show showed the house. from those 53 views were 23 offers a lot came from manhattan, brooklyn and queens, which is i guess not typical. not so typical before the pandemic, but a growing trend now as urban apartment divisioner seek more space suburban homes are in high demand getting
that sent croc shares up 10% good brigrief.oose at that, up almost 1.5%. >>> if you're trying to buy a new house, you better act quick, and you better be ready to pay up they're also being scooped up 12 days faster than last year prices up 10% there's a lot in there our diana olick has more. >> reporter: this was the scene from a front-door camera at a newly listed home. >> we knew we would be getting offers for it, but it was not like the ohm and volume of interest....
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crocs. you remember crocs.t now following reports that justin bieber will be working with the company. he's going to be joining hip-hop superstar bad money who already partnered with crocs. it went from $8 to almost $50 in the last year. >>> meanwhile, stocks on track for a second day in a row, although barely. we are getting ready also for tomorrow's jobs report. i'm expecting a big number, one million jobs, but it's still going to be tough and i want to talk about an industry that really has been surging lately and should continue to surge, electric vehicles. of course, we heard a whole lot about them including the mandate recently announced in california that all new cars sold in that state must be electric by 2035. want to bring in constellation research founder, ray wang, to ask him about this. ray, you are one of these guys who's always ahead of the curve on things like this. evs have been around for a long time but have gained so much traction. one of the things i was always, i don't know, obsessed, curi
crocs. you remember crocs.t now following reports that justin bieber will be working with the company. he's going to be joining hip-hop superstar bad money who already partnered with crocs. it went from $8 to almost $50 in the last year. >>> meanwhile, stocks on track for a second day in a row, although barely. we are getting ready also for tomorrow's jobs report. i'm expecting a big number, one million jobs, but it's still going to be tough and i want to talk about an industry that...
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you can buy platform balas iago crocs.h and too expensive for me, and they're about to release a new collaboration with country singer luke combs his last version this is the new ones that are going to come out is sold out in seconds very very popular justin bieber had a pair of customs, you know these are collaboration partnership is is drew because that his middle name. a fever can wear the cool right. no no know what about the kentucky fried chicken was member those yeah might also ridiculous their tidy there's all kinds of you know it and here's the thing is the more i see him. and they can i don't know james they grow on me and before you know it, but i say i swear i will never buy them they're the other what we do. you that's what ended up happening with the sneakers. remember so ally and you are with me when i was shopping alive with your would you want to shop again i i started look at me now look at look at me now little taste what it's called in go to begin for the okay so i i started air look at look at these ar
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want some crocs? they are 60 bucks a pair. >> you did a good job.arris. >> thank you, janai. >> we'll be right back. >> we'll be right back. charted . pstic thritis wasn't gointo change who i am. just back downom modrht when i learned that my joint pain could mean permanent joint damage, i asked about enbrel. enbrel helps relieve joint pain, and helps stop permanent joint damage. plus enbrel helps skin get clearer in psoriatic arthritis. ask your doctor about enbrel, so you can get back to your true self. -play ball! enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders and allergic reactions have occurred. tell your doctor if you've been someplace where fungal infections are common. or if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for heart failure, visi.c to seg uroint damage dol fever, bruising, could progress. enbrel. eligible patients may pay as little as $5 per month. hi jen!
want some crocs? they are 60 bucks a pair. >> you did a good job.arris. >> thank you, janai. >> we'll be right back. >> we'll be right back. charted . pstic thritis wasn't gointo change who i am. just back downom modrht when i learned that my joint pain could mean permanent joint damage, i asked about enbrel. enbrel helps relieve joint pain, and helps stop permanent joint damage. plus enbrel helps skin get clearer in psoriatic arthritis. ask your doctor about enbrel, so...
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you can buy platform balas iago crocs. too high and too expensive for me, and they're about to release a new collaboration with country singer luke combs his last version this is the new ones that are going to is sold out in seconds very very popular justin bieber had a pair of customs, you know these are collaboration partnership is is drew because that his middle name. a fever can wear the cool right. hope not know know what about the kentucky fried chicken was member those yeah might also ridiculous their tidy there's all kinds of you know it and here's the thing is the more i see him. and they can i don't know james they grow on me and before you know it, but i say i swear i will never buy them they're the other what we do. you that's what ended up happening with the sneakers. remember so ally and you are with me when i was shopping ally with that you're with shopping i started look at me now look at look at me now little taste what it's called in go to begin for the okay so i i started air look at look at these are li
you can buy platform balas iago crocs. too high and too expensive for me, and they're about to release a new collaboration with country singer luke combs his last version this is the new ones that are going to is sold out in seconds very very popular justin bieber had a pair of customs, you know these are collaboration partnership is is drew because that his middle name. a fever can wear the cool right. hope not know know what about the kentucky fried chicken was member those yeah might also...
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store in times square the past couple of days i guess croc still has their fans and certainly bieberse of the retail trader has made some under $10 stocks very popular. ford has become adorned on robin hood plus the patriots have cancelled stactice after another positive te can the nfl get through the season "power lunch" will be right back and discuss that one could both agree on was getting geico to help with our renters insurance. yeah, switching and saving was really easy! drink it all up. good! could have used a little salt. visit geico.com and see how easy saving on renters insurance can be. >>> basketball and hockey finished their season in the bubble baseball had its hiccups but made it throug football teams are facing covid shutdowns and rescheduling eric chummy joins us now with the latest coronavirus chaos. >> another week, more covid chaos is happening across the sports landscape the latest, the new england patriots cancelling practice today after another positive covid results. they are still awaiting results from other tests the indianapolis colts closed their facility
store in times square the past couple of days i guess croc still has their fans and certainly bieberse of the retail trader has made some under $10 stocks very popular. ford has become adorned on robin hood plus the patriots have cancelled stactice after another positive te can the nfl get through the season "power lunch" will be right back and discuss that one could both agree on was getting geico to help with our renters insurance. yeah, switching and saving was really easy! drink...
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the photo showing a pair of orange crocs in a pool saying soon the crocs respond responding with a greeneart emoji the company said they had no comment at this time very secretive shares have been on fire since the march lows they're now up more than 315% from that period we talked to the ceo recently. a big part of this has been very smart collaborations buzzy and just popular bieber could be the next one. apparently there is a thing called croctober he says maybe they're trying to keep secret ahead of that. it's a big deal. they've done this with mopostma lone they did a really hot colab with peeps. and now the sneaker heads are watching the crocs collaboration. >> i've always been a big bieber believer i haven't seen the green heart i wondered whether bieber was just playing around or whether saying soon i'm going to get in the swimming pool. but that response may be does confirm that there is a collaboration maybe in time for croctober as you said, sara. >> exactly >> croctober >> we'll keep you poisted on this very important story. >> it is moving the stock. >> the stock went up, i
the photo showing a pair of orange crocs in a pool saying soon the crocs respond responding with a greeneart emoji the company said they had no comment at this time very secretive shares have been on fire since the march lows they're now up more than 315% from that period we talked to the ceo recently. a big part of this has been very smart collaborations buzzy and just popular bieber could be the next one. apparently there is a thing called croctober he says maybe they're trying to keep secret...
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crocs has officially unveiled its justin bieber collaboration.sic clog in yellow with custom bieber charms and will retail for just $55 a bit of bieber beneath your feet. >>> on wall street, the dow had a big day, as i mentioned up 530 points s&p and nasdaq up almost 2% each. >>> ooi'm shepard smith on cnbc. it's the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news hurricane delta entering the gulf of mexico today the storm beat up the yucatan peninsula along the way. it dropped from a cat 4 to a cat 1 while over land. early this morning, heavy rain in playa del carmen and winds over 100 miles an hour 911 lit up and people whose windows and doors were broken and cutting power from tulum to cancun and across the yucatan. and this in cozumel, streets flooded, cars submerged. in the cancun tourist zone mostly empty resorts becoming a safe haven for the locals and people sheltering in entertainment hall and now the storm is over warm water and strengthening as it heads toward the gulf coast you see the path there most likely louisiana and hurricanes
crocs has officially unveiled its justin bieber collaboration.sic clog in yellow with custom bieber charms and will retail for just $55 a bit of bieber beneath your feet. >>> on wall street, the dow had a big day, as i mentioned up 530 points s&p and nasdaq up almost 2% each. >>> ooi'm shepard smith on cnbc. it's the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news hurricane delta entering the gulf of mexico today the storm beat up the yucatan peninsula along the way. it...
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shares for american firm crocs were up around 7% earlier as justin bieber hinted at a collaboration andhared a photo with the message "soon." shares reached t their highest level since 2007. it would not be the first time the brand has rolled out a major partnership. post malone also collaborated with the mucuch-maligned shoe company. chris: thank you very much for that business update. time for media watch. i am guessing you're starting off with the place where there was the most reaction. >> internet was flooded with reaction. a lot of sympathy, but also many expressing a bit of -- with some memes, and perhaps pushing the line of it today on twitter. many twitter users using trump's own words against him. he says, coronavirus, stand back and stand by, referring to the words trump used about a far-right group in the debate two days ago. here is another, a singapore news account, a chinese name telling trump to try bleach. they said, why don't you give it a go? this user says, one of the first symptoms of covid is losing your sense of taste. i think, mr. president, that you lost it a lo
shares for american firm crocs were up around 7% earlier as justin bieber hinted at a collaboration andhared a photo with the message "soon." shares reached t their highest level since 2007. it would not be the first time the brand has rolled out a major partnership. post malone also collaborated with the mucuch-maligned shoe company. chris: thank you very much for that business update. time for media watch. i am guessing you're starting off with the place where there was the most...
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charles: crocs is doing well, russell 2000, small-cap name of 8% crushing everyone else, we've got 30onds, heather, you think gold is a good head chair. >> i think it's better than a crypto currency. at least i can wear as jewelry, you cannot eat it but gold hit all-time highs and if you're worried about uncertainty that's a much better play gold versus cash or any of the big coin crypto currencies right now. charles: we were reminded of a story that king midas learned the hard way, you can't eat gold. heather, rob, to the best. here's a conundrum. a majority of voters are giving joe biden top marks for presidential quality but they agree with president trump on the issues, so which one is going to motivate them when they get the ballot box, my favorite political watchers are going to give us a real debate with timing and everything also years with silicon valley democrats want to break them up, will it be the republicans who have to save big tech, we will ask congressman ken buck next. who will he actually vote on the revised stimulus package, the numbers keep rising, we'll be right
charles: crocs is doing well, russell 2000, small-cap name of 8% crushing everyone else, we've got 30onds, heather, you think gold is a good head chair. >> i think it's better than a crypto currency. at least i can wear as jewelry, you cannot eat it but gold hit all-time highs and if you're worried about uncertainty that's a much better play gold versus cash or any of the big coin crypto currencies right now. charles: we were reminded of a story that king midas learned the hard way, you...
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crushing its crocs really i know right. i think a theme that you and i picked up on the last few weeks changes things that happen in the pandemic that. >>both surprises positive and negative financially speaking, cox's it earning over i looked at it yesterday i saw these papers i was like well i and it dumbfounded as they were a big play 20 years ago kids were by broxton putting the charms little pens that you can attach some like drop is nice to see you have a family chalk you know sit around charted and it was a kind of a kid stay. but there have been a big play into your sales up 44% stocks up 44%. just blowing it out of numbers what's fascinating to me is they made a relationship or guiding bad books. i don't know a lot about bad bunny it back he saw lot in american think he does reggae term which is electronic rabies something like that. they announced a partnership. one tweet later sold out they now partnership with justin bieber what one later sold out. fox gets it it's just like mcdonald's partnering with travis sco
crushing its crocs really i know right. i think a theme that you and i picked up on the last few weeks changes things that happen in the pandemic that. >>both surprises positive and negative financially speaking, cox's it earning over i looked at it yesterday i saw these papers i was like well i and it dumbfounded as they were a big play 20 years ago kids were by broxton putting the charms little pens that you can attach some like drop is nice to see you have a family chalk you know sit...
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maria: i'm actually wearing crocs right now, steve. i love crocs too. i'm wearing them right now.oe. steve: i'm going to have to try them too. coming from you is more credible than a 3-year-old so i'm going to try them now. maria: still ahead, president donald trump will join me at 8:00 a.m. eastern, his first television interview since leaving walter reed medical center. we've got a lot to talk about, including how he's feeling, his coronavirus recovery, the debates and mail-in ballot concerns. the president will join me at 8:00 a.m. eastern this morning. first, former new york city mayor rudy giuliani is here weighing in on the vice presidential debate last night. it all starts next hour. "mornings with maria" is live on fox business. ♪ let's dance. ♪ a veteran who honorably served and it's made for her she's serving now we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids become a member. get an insurance quote today. we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids metastatic breast cancer is relentless, but i'm relentless too. because every day matters. and having more
maria: i'm actually wearing crocs right now, steve. i love crocs too. i'm wearing them right now.oe. steve: i'm going to have to try them too. coming from you is more credible than a 3-year-old so i'm going to try them now. maria: still ahead, president donald trump will join me at 8:00 a.m. eastern, his first television interview since leaving walter reed medical center. we've got a lot to talk about, including how he's feeling, his coronavirus recovery, the debates and mail-in ballot...
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justin bieber in a collaboration with crocs, adding that the collection will drop next tuesday, sarahjoke you thought -- you always make fun of me for highlighting these things the stock went up when he first tease this had on october 1st. a number of analysts have been writing about this, susquehanna and piper sandler say it would equate to $33 million, 3% of revenue and 8 to ten cent earnings lift. i'm not going to say it's going to be a limited edition. just to give you an idea, and the fact that it drives moment toum crocs, which has done great with this collaboration. bieber has a million followers. >> the cake looked there as good as well. i don't make fun of you on this at all i thought the pitch was fun last week rightly point out, it makes a difference to the stock prices. >> serious business. whether he release thes a gibits pack as well could be huge sue herera has our cnbc news update. >> that will be tough to go but here we go. >>> in louisville, kentucky, police have released details of their investigation into the shooting death of breonna taylor, body cam videos, inter
justin bieber in a collaboration with crocs, adding that the collection will drop next tuesday, sarahjoke you thought -- you always make fun of me for highlighting these things the stock went up when he first tease this had on october 1st. a number of analysts have been writing about this, susquehanna and piper sandler say it would equate to $33 million, 3% of revenue and 8 to ten cent earnings lift. i'm not going to say it's going to be a limited edition. just to give you an idea, and the fact...
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. > >>> and crocs are having a moment. sales triggered a profit of $61.9 million.they sold nearly 17 million pairs of its clogs and other foot wear. cooperations with people like justin bieber helped. >> i guess when you put them on you dance like that too. that's a bonus. >> i don't know. >> this is -- pretty impressive here. another caribbean island offering the chance to work in paradise. you have my attention. >> yes. the cayman islands inviting renot workers to set up shop through its global citizen program. you must make at least $100,000 a year, couples making 150 grand are also eligible. the figure goes up to 180,000 if you are bringing the kids. income verification is required but you can stay for up to two years. this sound like it's good for the tech brothers. >> and the news brothers and sisters. >> i know. like wait? news could work in the caribbean. i have an i-phone. >> we can do it. i say let's test this out. salary aside of course. >> great. great. exactly. do some investigative reporting. >> exactly. let's put it to the test. we will see you comin
. > >>> and crocs are having a moment. sales triggered a profit of $61.9 million.they sold nearly 17 million pairs of its clogs and other foot wear. cooperations with people like justin bieber helped. >> i guess when you put them on you dance like that too. that's a bonus. >> i don't know. >> this is -- pretty impressive here. another caribbean island offering the chance to work in paradise. you have my attention. >> yes. the cayman islands inviting renot...
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share of your company cheap to wall street guys, that's from the last decade like izzy azalea and crocsnb will do a direct listing >> on the other hand, crocs are making a covid comeback, so is the traditional ipo. yesterday was a big moment for direct listings. let's not forget what ipos are, a chance to raise money, gain credibility and make a splash. already big-name billionaires preipo they're not exactly typical. about middle men, there's a reason why in the era of eliminating the middleman smart people are still using real estate agents sometimes. when you're doing a deal that big you want an expert watching your back and asking questions that doesn't mean there won't be tweaks snowflake and epic did ipos more tailored to their needs. for most companies out there, the ipo is evolving, not dying. >> okay. so, which is it? i've got a view here, jon. >> you do? what's your view >> i look at all of these as distinct, almost idiosyncratic issues the direct listing to me is not really impacting the ipo piece of it. the direct listing is for companies who actually have money and can affo
share of your company cheap to wall street guys, that's from the last decade like izzy azalea and crocsnb will do a direct listing >> on the other hand, crocs are making a covid comeback, so is the traditional ipo. yesterday was a big moment for direct listings. let's not forget what ipos are, a chance to raise money, gain credibility and make a splash. already big-name billionaires preipo they're not exactly typical. about middle men, there's a reason why in the era of eliminating the...
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forward, and then miss croc it. one of you can follow right after the other. hopefully i will be back by the time you are finished with those. i figure that is less inhumane than pausing the hearing and making you come back. i will be back momentarily. mr. dunn. >> thank you very much mister chairman. members of the committee, my name is mark dunn and i represent the ally he stewardship basin coalition. i'm here to discuss-esque 20 8:28. it is comprised of hundreds, ranchers, recreational lists and local business owners and oregon. the county, as senator wyden, said is the poorest county in oregon in terms of economic activity. 72% of the area is federal public land. aquaculture is the sustaining enterprise in the region, with cattle ranching as the significant contributor to this activity. these family based ranching operations are sustained through the use of permitted cattle grazing on public lands. for many years, this area has been embroiled in controversy as groups with different points of view regarding how federal public land should be used became focu
forward, and then miss croc it. one of you can follow right after the other. hopefully i will be back by the time you are finished with those. i figure that is less inhumane than pausing the hearing and making you come back. i will be back momentarily. mr. dunn. >> thank you very much mister chairman. members of the committee, my name is mark dunn and i represent the ally he stewardship basin coalition. i'm here to discuss-esque 20 8:28. it is comprised of hundreds, ranchers, recreational...