what about oliver cromwell?embered as a tyrant and to another section of the community he is not. when you have a divide, how do you decide? when putting up the statue of cromwell it almost brought the government down it was so controversial. i am catholic and have irish and my family and cromwell is a war criminal who shut down parliament. but 100 years on from the statue being erected i understand it is part of british identity and sometimes we lie to ourselves and tell national fantasies and it is part of our identity that cromwell stood up the parliamentary sovereignty. russia, vladimir putin seems hell—bent on rehabilitating josef stalin. the idea now that people in russia will look and see the man who murdered their ancestors put on a pedestal. i think we are talking about different examples as if they are equivalent and we need to distinguish between situations where those in power bill statues to ratify their stranglehold and those wanting to put up statues to get a toehold in a public sphere from which

you will remember, he is a man who called himself thomas cromwell in the court of the tudors. mforta ble. move for him. he will be more comfortable. steve bannon did not enjoy playing second fiddle to the president. now he is going back into the role he played so very influential in and powerfully, helping to bring donald trump into the white house during the campaign, bringing with him people like kellyanne conway and robert mercer and his daughter rebecca. his legacy in the white house is really bringing donald trump in. and now we will see him back in this bomb throwing role which he adopted again last night and is so comfortable in before going to the white house. what is going on in the white house? we have seen a revolving door of staff and what appears to be an amicable firing of steve bannon. who is calling the shots in the white house? is this president trump? is at the new chief of staff we have a marine general trying to bring order to the place. whether he can, i don't know. one of my colleagues said john kelly may have his hand on the switchboard of a donald trump

they have reached out to a number of kind of hard firms such as sullivan & cromwell.rebuffed. -- a member of high-powered law firms such as sullivan & cromwell. they were rebuffed. oliver: right now, who are the folks that are at the home for -- helm for trump's defense. >> right now the team is centered around three people. you have john dowd, who is trump's lead counsel, taking over from mark in july. he is a longtime criminal defense lawyer from a law firm called gump in washington. does a lot of criminal defense work and congressional investigation. the kind of face of the team at the moment is jay, the christian right lawyer who was the one that the trump team puts out on television to respond to news articles. and kind of the third individual that came on last week, that is tied called -- cobb. he is running the white house response to the investigation. cobb also comes from a longtime washington firm and is well experienced in congressional investigations, criminal investigations. did a lot of corporate work in private -- and private practice. he had to leave h

occupation of haiti going back with of sullivan and cromwell to that defacto divisor so those memos are going back and forth and you really tells them in haiti but by the 1830's especially and coming to power in the context of the depression in the context of great animosity that this needs to stop through a new deal legislation trying to restrain the of bankers and the activity in the caribbean and with those congressional hearings under the guise of for landau -- hernando has access to the records of other banks the legal offices of sherman and sterling for the first time people could go to see the archaeology's of those exploited banking practices in the caribbean. but the federal government tried to restrain the activities of wall street. >> basically we're talking their early 20th century right now are these banks still prevalent or influential? what is the legacy?. >> it is interesting there are a number of legacies but first in terms of the current influence the legacy is left less of u.s. banks may and canadian banks one of the things i found in my research was the canadian bank

downfall he knew this be to his life before he gave it but the morning of the speech with oliver cromwell that would just like to read a couple of paragraphs because he is is that quotation this was a day to day debate and on the first day recognized by the speaker of the house he should have been one of the first to be recognized as a former cabinet member wishes death then open almost immediately but so quickly he realized that meant everybody would be out of the chamber eating and when he finally got up then he thought there is hardly anybody in their. but one of the other rebels said i will go out and round up so he spoke 20 minutes. >> caller: got into the heart of the speech every his voice grew quieter as he looked around the chamber. those who can match our enemies in fighting spirits that may not be easy only by trial said ruthless the discarding for we're fighting to dave for life and liberty and paz said chamber was hushed from equitation he had jotted down the morning benghazi study the faces of his colleagues he knew he could take those comments along with him. because i am s

they've reached out to a number of high-powered firms such as sullivan & cromwell, but were rebuffedue to conflicts or a sense that the president doesn't want to listen to legal counsel. which could be a reputational risk for the law firm. oliver: for the votes were at -- so right now, who are the folks who are at the helm for trump's defense? >> the team is been centered around three people. john dowd who is trumps personal -- >> turning to personal counsel, he turns to his personal law firm -- which is more about bankruptcy and litigation. it was quickly clear that mark casowitz was not working well with the trump administration and he was sidelined. they've reached out to a number of high-powered firms such as sullivan & cromwell, but were rebuffed in part due to conflicts or a sense that the president doesn't want to listen to legal counsel. which could be a reputational risk for the law firm. oliver: for the votes were at -- so right now, who are the folks who are at the helm for trump's defense? >> the team is been centered around three people. john dowd who is trumps personal

he also referred to as thomas cromwell he must have been glad to have exited rather than be executed!hat he will be more comfortable with. i do not think that steve bannon was someone who enjoyed playing second fiddle to the president and now we see him going back into the role that he played so influentially and powerfully, helping to bring donald trump into the white house one year ago, it was when hejoined the the white house one year ago, it was when he joined the trump the white house one year ago, it was when hejoined the trump campaign last august and bringing with them people like kellyanne conway and the support of robert massara the major financier and his daughter that donald trump seemed like he was moving towards the white house. so his legacy in the white house is bringing trump in and now we will see him back in this bomb throwing roll that he adopted last night and he was so comfortable in before he went to the white house. —— robert mercer. —— robert mercer. so what is happening at the white house, we have seen steve bannon getting fired, is this the doing of presiden

. >> next question from cromwell ag network, please proceed with your question. >> thanks for taking our calls today, my question would be this. the commonality discovered under the transpacific partnership before the us withdrew, should that be the baseline for the beginning of negotiations? or is that the epitome we might expect? [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: we have big advances in the tpp in modernization of nafta. we know that 11 countries left. propose to continue with the agreement. very important that tpp can coordinate the nafta with canada and the united states. >> you mentioned tpp being a phase, i would not call it a phase but one thing about tpp, outlines the scope of a modern trade agreement. the idea of using it for a basis, market dynamics changed with the united states not being part of tpp. it will be difficult to accept that as a base going forward. talking about the scope and some of the issues we are discussing might be something to look at but others and that i can't say we knew. >> that is a lot of areas that we are interested and excited about so

it's a bust of oliver cromwell you know. so that's the sort of thing lee didn't amazing job of talking about a nuanced funny way we have put. my name on a summer you know leave camp i'm named after and a descendant all of general robert e. lee who should probably fire his publicist. i'm not getting though he's actually my great great great great great great third cousin. really by he never even told me a birthday card right so he's he's you know what you did to me is that in. any way both sides being named only you descended from really you growing up in richmond virginia the capital of the confederacy and attending the university of virginia in charlottesville last weekend i was also. ten feet from the charlottesville terror attack as it happened so that is who i am and where i come from and what happened this week and i'm saying it's time to take down the statues of robert. the earth was i want to tell you i'll tell you what we're going to have to take them down or i just move them all to a big building where anyone who wa

. >> our next question, cromwell ag network, please proceed with your question. >> thanks for taking our calls. my question would be this. is the commonality discovered under the transpacific partnership before the us withdrew, should that be the baseline for the beginning of negotiations? or is that the epitome we might expect? [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: we have big advances in the tpp we can consider for modernization of nafta. and we know that 11 countries left propose to continue with the agreement. for mexico was very important to tpp because coordinating the perfect picture of nafta with canada and the united states. >> you mentioned tpp being a base. not sure i would call it a base but one of the things, it outlines the scope of a modern trade agreement. the idea of using it is the market dynamics have changed with the united states not being part of tpp, very difficult to accept that as a base going forward. talking about the scope, other than that i don't see it being news of the day. >> a lot of areas in tpp, excited about. hopefully there will be pieces but

our next question coming from jeff with cromwell ag network. please proceed with your question. >> thank you for taking our calls today. my question is, is the commonality discovered under the transpacific partnership before the u.s. withdrew, should that be the baseline for the of negotiations, or is epitome we might expect? >> we consider have big advances in the tpp that we can consider for the modernization of nafta. we know that 11 countries left. for both to continue with the for mexico it was becauseortant for tpp to coordinate nafta with canada and the united states. >> you mentioned about tpp being a base. i'm not sure i would call it a base, but it outlines the scope of a modern trade agreement. the variety of using it as a base is that market dynamics have changed with the united states not being part of tpp. it would be very difficult to accept that as a base going forward. talking about the scope and some of the issues that were discussed might be something that is looked at, but i can't it being used as a base. >> there is a lot o

there's one of cromwell on the grounds of parliament. >> that's just a bum sleeping.e a lot of people laying there. >> you were looking that's bums. >> i'm not a fan of the slippery slope argument where you say if a occurs then there's x but people are now talking about jefferson and washington and columbus and columbus circle. i think for a lot of people this is becoming an exercise in relieving boredom and empty in their lives. if you can get a plaque of christoph christoph christopher colombus it doesn't do anything for your family or life or career but it fills up a hole in yourself. it's something -- i think when i was in high school i was interested in causes and do stupid things as well and worked for the nuclear freeze to get extra credit. there's no investment in it. if you hate it, mail me your $20 bills because andrew jackson's on it and he owned slaves. if you really believe this, send me your $20 bills. >> do you think young people -- if they're watching this, we hope they are, that we sound old and don't get it? >> yeah, not you and me. >> that's why we'

they've reached out to a number of high-powered firms such as sullivan & cromwell, but were rebuffedrt due to conflicts or a sense that the president doesn't want to listen to legal counsel. which could be a reputational risk for the law firm. for the votes were at the helm for trump's? >> the team is been centered around three people. john dowd who is trumps personal counsel. he took over the lead role in july. he is a longtime criminal defense lawyer. does criminal defense work as well as congressional investigations. he is very experienced. the face of the team at the ulow, ais jay sek christian rights'lawyer. , juste third individual came on last week and that is tied cobb -- ty cobb. from a longtime washington firm, and is well experienced in congressional investigations. he did a lot of corporate work in private practice. he had to leave his law firm in order to take the position. up next the tangled web of limited liability companies for president trump. a refugee crisis in the amazon. this is bloomberg businessweek. ♪ >> welcome back to bloomberg businessweek. still ahead, th

in that quotation adams was comparing the short-lived english commonwealth under cromwell to what he correctly predicted would be an equally short-lived republican in post-revolutionary france. recall that napoleon bonaparte, all of the while having himself crowned emperor, and you saw that bust of napoleon in the -- in jefferson's monticello in the parlor there and what was that rallying cry of the revolution that napoleon claims to be protecting and vindicating? you may also know the story of his coronation in notre dame, right? he was so anxious to get that crown, he actually took it out of the hands and placed it on his own head. he was so anxious to become a modern-day for france. so much, right? for revolution and the people. during that french revolution in which adams doubted that the french could sustain a successful revolution word came that there had been a massacre of catholic priests during the terror. some 200 of them were set afire on barges in the middle of the seine. so they were given the exquisite choice of drowning or burning to death. after learning of this, adam

there's one of cromwell on the grounds of parliament. >> greg: that was just a bomb sleeping. the slippery slope argument. when you say if letter a occurs, so will x. we are seeing people talk about jefferson and washington. you have mayor de blasio talking about columbus and columbus circle. for a lot of people, this is becoming an exercising and relieving -- not just boredom and emptiness in their lives. if you can get a plaque of christopher columbus removed from your school, that's a simulation of achievement. something that makes you feel good but it does nothing for your family or your life or your career. it fills up a little hole in yourself. i mean, when i was in high school, i was interested in causes and stupid things as well. i worked for the nuclear freeze. what was i thinking? just to get extra credit. i think it's an easy battle for people because there's no investment. if you really hate it, mail me your $20 bill because andrew jackson is on it and he owned slaves. i want you to send me your $20 bills. >> dana: do think young people are watching this -- hopeful

the british had one can that it belonged to cromwell in 1650. but some pentagon from war to war the war, to canada where it could only shoot straight. it was probably mounted. you couldn't raise it, mount it or lower it. york wasn't i was offended. pike and his regiment quickly took the outer defenses, and they were resting up before taking the last part of the fort. pike was sitting under a tree stump interrogating a prisoner surrounded by 200 british prisoners and 200 some american soldiers leaning on their muskets, rifles. when the british commander decided to give the order to light a match underneath the powder magazine directly under pike which contained 500 barrels of highly explosive gunpowder, so the man whose name is on pike's peak was killed by a boulder falling on his head. most american casualties from that attack were from that explosion. once pike was killed, the american sailors and soldiers went on a three-day rampage. they quickly emptied all the taverns any provincial capital that were numerous. and after that they went to the

last area and i would like to go through the whole panel but i would like you to start off, bernard cromwell. you mentioned cs forrester in your biographical statement of your early book jackets, your love for that genre of writing which i have to say i do believe very much in a model for leadership but you created nuances in your writing. would you reflect on fictional or real leaders and we will go down the panel on that leadership quality, perhaps you can talk about that. >> the leadership in play, i said all alone and make up stories. >> i wish you would lay off. >> one thing about leadership, the proudest value. >> i like fairies. we got that on the record. >> i can safely say -- >> what is wrong? >> i have been led. i don't know how many people. the greatest sin is not making the wrong decision as making no decision. a news conference, got television crews. if you are thinking should we go to this or that or nothing ever got done, this is my miserable contribution. [laughter] >> i yield the floor. >> liesl tommy. >> interesting the question of leadership. i grew up in an optimist world

house of commons, the house of parliament in broun, you will see a very prominent statue for oliver cromwellll stands there because he is part of history. case closed. larry, i'm out of time -- go ahead, last word. go ahead, last word. >> another inconvenient fact, a new poll,npr poll, more blacks than not want the monuments to stay, 44% versus 41% respectively. a little awkward, isn't it? stuart: yes, it is. i'm glad you brought that up, good stuff. larry elder, thank you very much, sir. appreciate it. >> thank you. stuart: did you catch the eclipse yesterday? people flooded the streets coast to coast to watch. fox news meteorologist janice dean was there in the thick of it. she'll be with us next. >> i'm shaking, and this is amazing. i mean, unit expect it to be this awesome. i accept i don't bike as far as i used to. i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but no matter where i ride, i go for my best. so if there's something better than warfarin, i'll go for that too. eliquis. eliquis reduced the risk of