then we will have mat lynn macky from the red cross talk about using red cross resources. to be prepared for a disaster. we have michaelllow from china town disaster preparedness committee an example of an organized neighborhood they have their own disaster plan. we have judy choi from animal care and control that will talk about pet preparedness and michael from pg and e. i will facilitate a discussion after based on the questions folks have. let's get started. >> i'm amy with the department of emergency management. thank you. >> hi. thank you all for chosing to get involved in the conversation of disaster prepared. i would like to present alth about the training program the san francisco department provides free of charge to you. there are a few people in the room that are are nert trained. anybody else? know we are appreciative for that. 1990 for the fighter department to the react which was training for citizens and how to take care theflgz after a sdaft every how to feel empowered about what they can do after the disaster instead of waiting in line for what people cou

a cross. for the past two days, nobody has been able to get close to it. one steel barrier was put in front of it. now there are too. there is no solution in sight. people can pray from afar. for those doing so, only one is important -- the fact that the cross is still there. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> the bergers of france are getting angry at the borders of the edible variety. the chain quick is making burgers that include only halal meat. demand is growing. more and more outlets are hungry to cash in. >> this hamburger looks normal but is actually halal. the meat was prepared according to methods permitted by islamic law. what looks like bits of bacon are actually smoked turkey. last year, eight outlets of the french quick fast-food chain became halal-only restaurants. >> personally, i only eat halal. i used to order only fish when i came here. now i can eat meat. >> considering how many muslims live here is a good thing they serve halal meat. >> it

crossing in the south that goes all the way to kandahar that crossing is called chum and it's in the southwestern province of baluchistan and that crossing as far as i checked just a few hours ago is still open i'm not sure if tankers are actually crossing into afghanistan from that point as we speak right now ours but at least one saying i don't want to say i was crossing one crossing is closed there's another nearby crossing that's open but let's talk about the nato airstrikes now and the apparent reason for these u.s. and nato strikes is that militants are using the pakistani tribal zone along the afghan border as a hideout and you tell me can pakistan solve this problem on its own. ok this is a point that unfortunately pakistani officials have not been able to clarify very in clear terms and our allies in afghanistan are unable to understand baka stun can only do so much to stop doing tribesmen from crossing both into afghanistan and into pakistan you have to understand something tribes of course are divided by this manufactured border and and in order to completely stop the push

and slash the numbers lanes, and maybe cross the directions to cross. and slashing the number of lanes and using a median refuge, and on a two-way street and you pet a median refuge and get one half one direction. and here in san francisco, and so many signal light turning and the right turning and people on red. and in new york city, they don't have right turn on red, and if i had one change it would be to eliminate right turn on red. that was a big mistake and it encourages people to run red lights, and you can do that when you have given the priority to the motorists. and when i was staying there is a left turn trap lane and that sign of hayes has no pedestrian crossing and to go from "a" to "b" and in a nice pedestrian neighborhood, that doesn't make any sense. those are my four rules and i promised to show you the before and after. and this is 122 avenue in portland, and after we applied the measures, now you see the after. and there was a high demand for crossing at that location, and no signalized crosswalk for a mile on one side. and it's been a

cross, too. i get to the middle of the intersection, and i find out that the light has changed. >> we need to be able to work and go from one place to the other and have public transportation. the world needs to be open. >> people on disability has the task of addressing all the disability. when we are talk about the sidewalks, ramps, we have very specific issues. for people blind and low vision, we have the issue of knowing where they are and when the cross. it can be hit or miss. >> at hulk and grove, that sound the the automatic -- it helps people cross the street safely. >> now we have a successful pedestrian signal. >> i push the button, i get an audible message letting me know that i need to wait. when it is safe to cross, not only am i going to get an audible indicator, this button is going to vibrate. so it tells me it is safe. there is the driller sound and this trigger is vibrating. i am not relying on anything but the actual light change, the light cycle built into it. >> it brings san

we have done training around the city a partnership with the red cross. one challenge was people showing up. we did advertising and people didn't necessarily come to the presentations. because it requires more than putting up a sign and it requires more contact than our department has. people in the building have to encourage their neighbors to come to these trainings. back to disaster kits. we have a grant from the hospital council to purchase disaster buckets from the red cross. it's not many. our focus is on low income families. family and child care providers. we are looslooking at organizeds like day care centers and providing them with supplies. so they're available after a disaster. that's one way we are addressing that. >> did you have a follow up to that? >> you keep saying turn off the gas. i've tried to get a hold of pg and e. a lot of the meters have frozen nuts or whatever you want to it. i tried to get pg and e to look at the one in my house and says it's impossible to shut off. how do we get pg and e to address the fact the old meters in fr

the red cross shelter will be open a few more days.referred that you donate money instead, as they are already overwhelmed with these physical donations. if you would like to donate online, there's a link to the red cross, cbs5.com. also, the humane society, peninsula humane society is caring for all of the pets that were rescued from the disaster zone. they can use food and financial donations as well. >> lot of help coming in there. that's a good thing. >> absolutely. people have been amazing. >>> weather wise today, sunny skies and warm temperatures. so make a point to enjoy it, because we'll be cooling. >>> that does it for today. we'll see you back here tomorrow morning. have a great saturday morning. >> we'll see you first thing in the morning. >> dark and early! ,, the guys who drive a heavy duty truck, like enough horsepower and torque to get out of just about any situation. a payload that beats the other guys flat out. a frame sturdy enough to bear up a max towing capacity that's over 10 tons. and a braking system tough enough

if we can, the deal street cross -- the next weekend, the bill street crossing, as you know, that ralphwas put in 10 or 15 years ago. both of those overpasses came down over that weekend. there was a removal of the overpass. by the end of the second week in, the notice to proceed, they have cleared the temporary terminal site as well as the two crossings. here they are working about two weeks ago. that work will be completed. as far as a time line, to give you an idea of what is coming next, the fremontó[ street, wee working northwest across veal street, so that will be the next street crossing. in two weeks, we will close that. about three weeks' worth of work. and then into the tempore terminal, starting at the east end and working across fremont by the end of october. utility relocation work, we hope to release that contract in october at the next board meeting, which will allow them to get started, and demolition will proceed through of the terminal. having to take any questions if there are any. >> i have a question. they may be covering it in the next couple killed leave. [inaudi

we also have the red cross truck here.have information this morning that they helped out about 38 people at the two shelters they had set up last night. they say that a lot of people ended up going with family and friends. we're also, if we can pan over here, waiting for a press conference to start to get new information. we're believing this may be the lieutenant governor coming here. that could happen any minute. a lot of people coming by wanting answers. we spoke with one woman a couple minutes ago, she said she had a couple relatives up there and hasn't heard from them. she is trying to get information on them. also people coming here wanting to know, as sad as it sounds, wanting to know if their home is still standing. they are wanting answers and the red cross can't answer that. oes is here, firefightering trying to learn what is going on. state farm, the insurance company, will be out in this lot helping out the people they cover trying to get them back on their feet. certainly a lot of activity this morning. a lot

the american red cross has 12 volunteers out here. many more spontaneous volunteers are still out here this morning. these volunteers came down to help last night, are in no way affiliated with the red cross. they started arriving last night and immediately got to work. a lot of organizing has to be done in a situation, the food and clothes brought in by the community needed to be sorted. that's one of the reasons why at this hour the red cross is asking for monetary donations. log on and send money in care of the san bruno fire effort. women dropped off diapers and baby formula, one of the women heard the loud explosion last night and as she watched the continuous coverage of what was going on she came down to donate. we also spoke to a man who heard the explosion and th took some action. >> we are a tight community. everybody knows each other and everybody went to school together and played sports together. when you see your neighbor's homes on fire and you know them you can pick out our friend's houses it's sad but it makes you wan

you can see behind me the red cross truck is here. they are certainly helping many of those people who had their homes either completely burned to the ground or had a lot of damage done to it. you can see some of the video there. dozens of homes that burned and more that are damaged. one person confirmed dead and dozens hurt. many people taking themselves to the hospital. some with severe burns, others with smoke inhalation, some in nearby hospital, others as far as san francisco. saint francis burn unit was treating some of the people last night. this is going to be a pretty difficult search operation, certainly not rescue but a search operation as cadaver dogs go through some of the rubble this morning. mainly, that's because many of the people if there are any left inside pretty much would have been incinerated. this fire was so hot, i was here last night that it just eliminated the houses almost instantly. you see skeletons, chimneys, ironically about the only things left standing sit on the ground n top of foundations. certainly

and the bulb out issue that jack mentioned not just from the cross distance but site aspect. and the -- believe it or not, we say that adding bulb outs can increase parking and when you stripe 10 feet, you won't get much more than bulbs and some for uncontrolled crossings and very few that don't have signals or stop sign, but the bulbs outs will help there. and the last session about the end street signs and some of those things is another tool, and part because it's an uncommon situation here in san francisco, where you have a crossing, that's not signalized and no stop sign and more than one lane in each direction, and an advanced yield line, a line in place of a crosswalk and they stop at that location and it's a tool that has very little application, maybe a few places to be applied and uncontrolled crossing, but not necessarily multilane. and some near st. petersburg, where i live use that and i will say that now. >> we have until 3:30, and i want to be sure we have time for questions. and before i hand this to maggie, i want to make my own observations and like jack, i

>> they can contact their local red cross, contact the american red cross in the bay area go to our website, call 800-red-cross, get information. or, again, come to the points of service delivery that we set up in san bruno. >> thanks a lot for taking a moment. reporting live from san bruno, i'm christie smith. back to you guys. >> he mentioned a website, we will continue to one those remember sites and more information on the ticker below us. >>> the mayor of san bruno says this terrible tragedy has fallen on the city. here's a statement from him. >> our main concern, as public officials here, making sure our citizens are safe. we're trying to do that right now this is going to be a long haul for the season and all of our residents for a number of weeks to come. >> the mayor is asking people to pray for those effected by the massive fire. it will be a tough tragedy to overcome. we are still in the very early hours of all of this. >> is going to be so hard to go through the remains there. it just looks like a volcano hit. >> it does. it is still hot. they have not declared this area safe. w

people want to cross whether they're closed any way. i think your aware of that and anything we can do to retime for allowing pedestrian crossing will be important. banning turns on red at certain locations depending on a situation. sometimes it's beneficial and sometimes not if cars are turning left on green maybe this would not be help full. i think jack mentioned the pedestrian has would or what we cause 2 - 5 seconds of walk signal prior to the vehicle giving they're green can really provide is a pedestrian ahead start. so, the motorist can see them and yield to them. those are some of the very few examples of the counter me sures and i can answer questions but right now we're at the end of our time. >> couple of questions? >> countdown as an example of synergy tools but i think we need more that bring together bicyclists, pedestrian and cars because that's where the point of impact where time and space collide and as a risk manager i'd like to work closely with you to implement these tools. flashing stop signs. great idea. time has

red cross says they are no longer taking any more donations at this site. they have been inundated with people bringing blankets and other goods. they say bring it to your nearest salvation army and tomorrow at 2:00 there is a town hall style meeting with the san bruno city council. that is at st. roberts church at 2:00. >> kiet do, thank you. >>> we're finding out it could be more than a year until we find out exactly what happened in this neighborhood. the federal government investigators there say it could be 18 months before their final report is completed. one thing that neighbors have been saying from the very beginning. they told us that yesterday, they told it to us outside in the street again today. they smelled gas for days in that neighborhood before the blast. robert lyles shows us some neighbors still smell is tonight. >> reporter: ken, consider. this just over an hour ago i stood outside of a home in the crestmoor section of san bruno and it is literally blocks away from what is now being described as ground zero. i lay out the distance becaus

you see assign there that says no pedestrian crossing. use the sidewalk. again a perfect example that priorities given to moving vehicles verses pedestrian safety. in that area people with handicapped and mobility impairment have to travel long distances to cross the street. gridlock in san francisco is more of a day-to-day chore

we are on glenn view that cro cross street is san bruno. if you zoom in, will you see a white glow of smoke. that's where the fire is contained. this person i spoke to said they were under the impression that this fire should be close to 100% contained by dawn. right now everything in that area that is going to burn has burned, according to him. in other words, the homes caught in that zone are gone. the foundations is all that remain. what they have is smoldering debris. his concern is that if the winds were to pick up, you could see another flair-up of flames. that's one reason for concern. that's why there are so many firefighters out here. 53 homes destroyed, more than 100 damaged. one person confirmed dead. there's another report that more people have been killed, but that's not been confirmed about 20 people were taken to the hospital last night. our understanding is that several of those people are still there in critical condition. this neighborhood caught fire, it blew up just after 6:00, around 6:15 last night. pg&e has confirmed

san bruno is part of the bay area red cross, and, of course, the bay area red cross is housed here in san francisco. we had a pretty significant mutual aid response to our neighboring county. we had, specifically from san francisco, over 15 volunteers respond last night. we had over 125 volunteers either on site or in rows -- en route. we are staffing personnel at the various eoc's. we have said seven or eight of our emergency response vehicles to the area, and will begin damage assessment of each individual home to assess the needs of the victims of the fire. we have caseworkers who will start those interviews beginning today, and we are also sending from the six counties our disaster mental health service specialist to help out in that area. it people are concerned about the well-being of their family or friends, they can register themselves at our safe and well website, or they can call 1-800- red-cross and file their information about their concerned parties there. mayor newsom: appreciate that. you have another site that was set up for city employees. >> yes, so for san francisco

once they cross the river, they are trafficked. third stage,traffickers, they send their team inside north korea. not many north korean refugees cross the river. these traffickers go into north korea and recruiting girls. they cheat them. they cross the river and can makebetter living. >> they actually go in after them. not ve subtle is it? what do you want china to do mr. kim? >> china must recognize refugees. they came into china for desperately to survive. reason why they must recogne them. they are facing to even the worst is death sentence or to the political prison camp or torture. these kinds of things. because once they know meet the foreigners, like south korean or missioners. >> what are the chinese christians doing to help these north kore refugees? >> providing shelter and food and sometimes a way how to meet. >> you are in contt with christians in north korea? >> yes. i contact underground churches. many underground churches. their societies are like a family, 2-3 ople. it is not easy to contact them inside north korea

>> at red cross we do not exactly known to nations. you can donate money, food, blankets you know you can join it to local church or charity. and by all means the local red cross ringnecks times it happens like this you prepared to come up and l. >> have been helping families get in touch with their loved ones? to make sure their loved ones ok? >> of funds and local funds are not affected it like in most of the disasters we deal it's a communication has not been we talked about opening a call center we don't do this would be necessary this point. >> to fill most of the people that feel the trendy yet in touch with their family >> yes absolutely. >> bucket of thank-you very much. we'll let him continue and there are a lot of folks who found shelter with friends and family members. about three of them have gone to the american evacuation center in and returned them to pick up with your lives. >> are jonathan take you for that. we do have some new video that just came as of the fireball. look at that. >> and the fumes it's almost like you

we are at the shopping center, we have a red cross here. and i want to show you right here, where they have been getting donations from people around the area, there's food. there are blankets. there are jackets, there's water. all things for people who are just kind of trying to get what they can to help. they've been seeing these picture and it's been touching them. a lot of them are trying to do whatever they can to help out in whatever small way. as you saw, as the two people we talked to got a couple of blankets; because it's chilly out here. we're not sure that the red cross is accepting any food. but blankets, and jackets. a lot of these people don't have anything right now, so they are really in need. we're going to try to stay on top of this, and we're going to try to get an interview with the vice mayor who has been getting briefings regularly from police. there are a lot of police out here on the scene from san mateo, san bruno and surrounding jurisdictions to see if they can keep order here. when we started off it was about 15,

>> we are working with the red cross to help provide emergency shelter.hat is a good question because our focus is on those that have been impacted. we want to work with the red cross to make sure they are -- those that have experienced this terrible tragedy that their immediate material needs are met and so working with the red cross on making sure that you know first and foremost shelter but also food and cloth in and the things the necessities of life that will be needed we are working closely with them because this is such a terrible tragedy we want to make sure those folks who have had just an unbelievably terrible experience that their material needs are obviously met and we will let the red cross do that. >> all right again just to let people know who are just joining us we are talking by jeff smith, a spokesperson for pg&e, jeff, i am sure your phone lines and website flooded, what can you tell people that near the area if they did smell gas or what they saw and hear, where should they go with this information in this investigation? >> certainly t

the red cross in the hospital are as saying the victims.ey want to know what pg&e stalinism what really happened. the is of a source of the explosion was a home in claremont and when you drive. and that is spread. >> oh yes. it was the ones that did that caring the flames from home to home and what you see on the right-hand side is at the entire neighborhood had that was just leveled. there used to beat houses on the street and now you see nothing-and rubble. police has been following the weather talking about the high winds that we see there. the reset? >> yes we have a chilling pictures of the video over and over and over of the planes being pushed very fast by the ones. it is no question why this place is very susceptible to high winds. yesterday is up to 20 m.p.h. and that is why the fans' were pushing so quickly. currently it is about the status is going to get peer getting very low temperatures and has been light and variable morning is fluctuating from 1 to 2 mi. an hour winds and not to about 3 mi.. it could get up to five or six. i

as we have lines here in our tea in our debate show cross talk is next for peter lavelle's guests clash over illegal immigration in europe and the united states. nineteen thirty eight england and france try to reason with hitler germany demands of the land and gets its way they all thought they had created a safety net for themselves in nineteen thirty nine the whole of europe isn't going to war efforts to establish a system of collective security nine hundred thirty eight failed and it's still on the agenda. the lessons to be learned from the munich agreement on r t. can you can. start. to. follow it and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle who are they undocumented immigrants or illegal aliens a label that protects or punishes as an anti immigration groundswell threatens europe and splits the us we cast a cold eye over the debate what we find is heated rhetoric finger pointing and few easy answers. and you can. start. to discuss if immigrants should stay or go i'm joined by michelle they're low cost in phoenix she is the founder of mothers against illegal aliens in durham we go to

we are at the shopping center, we have a red cross here. and i want to show you right here, where they have been getting donations from people around the area, there's food. there are blankets. there are jackets, there's water. all things for people who are just kind of trying to get what they can to help. they've been seeing these picture and it's been touching them. a lot of them are trying to do whatever they can to help out in whatever small way. as you saw, as the two people we talked to got a couple of blankets; because it's chilly out here. we're not sure that the red cross is accepting any food. but blankets, and jackets. a lot of these people don't have anything right now, so they are really in need. we're going to try to stay on top of this, and we're going to try to get an interview with the vice mayor who has been getting briefings regularly from police. there are a lot of police out here on the scene from san mateo, san bruno and surrounding jurisdictions to see if they can keep order here. when we started off it was about 15,

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and we hired more crossing guards and put in more cross walks at schools and had the idea and these are all from the notes at the last pedestrian summit by the way, lighted cross walks were talked about and we have experimented with them and found some technical difficulties and hopefully that will improve to be maintained. that's problem with installations we've done. speed bumps were talked about and that was dormant for years but it has been revived. traffic calming program has been revitalized since passing of prop-k that has begun to provide funding for that. there are some ideas i wanted to call your attention to. speed radar signs that say the speed limit is such and such and these have been found to get people to slow down. we've experimented and had some interesting experiences with traffic circles. but we've learned a lot and this is part of the tool kit we have. some of the things we do are not necessarily new invasions but they're proven traffic engineering improvements. new signals. we constantly get requests for those at high traffic intersections. we've put in close t