crump to, to share his words. our featured lecturer will talk about that transition from the moment to the movement, and the role that lawyers and he play in this transition. mr. crump? [applause] benjamin: thank you, attorney martin. to dean pollack and his administration especially sylvia and gaye and shirley who made me feel so welcome when i arrived at howard university this morning, for the absolute honor of being the charles harris lecturer. i was so moved when i read about what you did mr. harris, because that's what it is about when we think about what god -- why god gave us the blessings not to keep it to ourselves, but to pass them on so i salute you and i thank you, mr. harris. [applause] before i begin my comments to you, there's a few people i want to recognize who are very dear to me. i have the honor of being the president-elect of the national bar association. [applause] thank you. and billy, i know they say lawyers always trying to bill hours and they have a lot going on but they took time out of

crump to come up to share his words. our futured lecturer will talk about that transition from the moment to the movement and the role of lawyers and he play in this transition. mr. crump? >> thank you. his administration especially sylvia who have made me feel so welcome. for the absolute honor of being the charles harris lecture i was so moved when i read about what you did, mr. harris, because that's what it is about when we think about what god why god gave us the blessings. not to keep it to ourselves, but to pass them along, so i salute you and i thank you. before i begin my comments there's a few people i want to recognize that are dear to me. i have the honor of being the president-elect of the national bar association. and -- billy, i know they say lawyers are always trying to bill hours and they have a lot going on, wu they took time out their busy schedules to come and be here, so i want to aung knowledge one of my personal heroes and you all know her well here in d.c. when i was running for president, she gav

benjamin crump is with us still.e was the attorney for the michael brown family trayvon martin family. you wanted to make a point. >> yeah wolf i agreed with mark morial. it is becoming a state of emergency when we continue to see america sanction the killing killings of these unarmed people of color. and every time nothing happens, when it is just inexplicable the manner in which they died it makes people have greater mistrust in the community. at a certain point, that erupts and we've got to do something about it. leaders have to be responsible. i believe the mayor in baltimore is going to try to get to the bottom of this but it needs to happen sooner than later, because this community is on the verge of erupting. >> but the investigation, benjamin is only just beginning, right? they don't have all the answers. >> you know there are so many questions. why can't you give the family the preliminary report so they can have some answers as to what happened. how long do they have to have pain and suffering on top of pai

through the practice of de-escalation practices that attorney crump was making. so the concept is brilliant because what it attacks at its core is the current incentivizing of overarrests, overincarceration escalation of dangerous situations. all of those things right now we reward. and what we need to do is we need to reward the exact opposite. >> the reason i thought it was a concept -- [ applause ] >> the reason i thought it was a concept that it would be an issue to raise is that many budgets of police departments are based upon those raw number of arrests. so that's why i thought in terms of discussing the concept, i thought you had some -- i think people may disagree with you on the numbers but the concept is an issue. >> yes, ma'am. >> my name is cynthia ward, i'm an howard engineering alum. i'm not a socialist or a theologian. i didn't have a request, i had a request and i'm going to defer my question to a howard student who got up at the cutoff point and let her ask the question. my request was going to be that as we close out i would like to have a ferv

crump?'s a culture and the culture is we all say there are good police officers out there and nobody denies that but why aren't those good police officers speaking up when they see this bad conduct? >> he's claiming the guy went after his taser gun, so the cop must have known he was unarmed. so he started to run away. isn't there a constitutional judgment here on shooting someone running away from you that is unarmed? >> absolutely. it is the fourth amendment and tennessee versus gardner, that you can't shoot fleeing felons. >> he talked about how low the bar is. how many times do we have to go over that bar? how many young people have been shot dead unarmed and nothing happened to the police officer because of the narrative? we have to first make something happen to that officer. that's what should happen when you murder somebody. you should be charged with murder and found guilty. >> it is training as withell. his instinct was to pull the firearm out. >> in the back. >> the narrative of wh

through the practice of deescalation practices that attorney crump was making. the concept is brilliant because what it attacks at its core is the current incentivizing of overarrests, overincarceration overincarceration, escalation of dangerous situations. all of those things right now we reward. and what we need to to is we need to reward the exact opposite. >> the reason i thought it was a concept -- [ applause ] >> the reason i thought it was a concept that it would be an issue to raise is that many budgets of police departments are based upon those raw number of arrests. so that's why i thought in terms of discussing the concept i thought you had some -- i think people may disagree with you on the numbers but the concept is an issue. >> yes, ma'am. >> my name is cynthia ward, i'm an howard engineering alum. i didn't have a request, i had a request and i'm going to defer my question to a howard student who got up at the cutoff point and let her ask the question. my question was going to be as we close out i would like to have a fervent honest sincere prayer

crump, who stepped out for a minute, to handle that question. >> mr.p, the question was posed, the question is -- repose your question. >> in light of seeing all the videos where the police are shooting people and basically just leaving them there to die what are the legal requirements for police regarding using life saving means, you know, when they have shot somebody? are they supposed to just leave them there so as not to disturb evidence or supposed to, you know, attempt to save their life? in the walter scott case they lied and said they used cpr and there is no evidence of that on the video. >> in the same with tamir rice can i have my co-counsel walter madison address this really briefly? >> sure. >> we deal with the same issue in cleveland. >> i'll be very direct with that response. each state is governed by their own commanders for training and qualifications. one of the things that probably should be done and bring us some cohesiveness on that issue is there be a mandate, nationwide, because humanity is the real aim. and as part ofi] the earl

let's see what we learned in terms of the military operation by bringing in justin crump global security and intelligence analyst. they didn't say anything earth shattering or anything that you didn't already know. >> no, what's interesting is some of the things that they're not quite talking about, i think one of the key developments we've seen around aden is the fact that the air-dropped weapons to the forces that the coalition is supporting. i think if you look at the situation of aden in a moment, they're cut off from the western peninsula side of aden. it shows there was no control of the port. that's almost a last resorts to go to try to get supplies. >> if you could control the port you would just land the weapons. you wouldn't drop them haphazardly. >> yes it does suggest a sense of urgency in aden and i think the presidential palace-been recovered but that's very much on the front lines. i know the houthis are confident, that they're going to achieve control of aden. >> the houthis have circle military might behind them. >> yes. >> the people who are trying to protect aden at th

attorney crump has said that life matters. he named names of people who's lives matter. in the christian tradition. we believe that life matters because life is a gift. and that all human beings are created in the image of god. and so when you take a life, you snuff out the image of god. every life matters which means that we need a vocabulary to talk about our young black plaels and the other constituencies that attorney crump had mentioned. that does not demonize and does not dehumanize. we have to stop drinking the thug kool-aid. we have to stop drinking the around malkool-aid. we have to stop with the name calling and the object if iing that we our sfls -- in the name of distancing ourselves from them. the second thing that came out -- for me out of this, aside from theology of life matters, is his notation that these instances belong to all of us. one of the thijss that i've been doing over the last 30 years is working at the intersection between religion, the faith community and the criminal justice system, i started working in 1977 with first offenders in passaic

sunday dozens battled dry conditions in winds as this fire crumps from one them to another. she and her husband were sgriling on the back porch when the fire sparked. >> i'm in shock. i don't know. i can't believe. >> everyone escaped without injury and destruction was extensive for five homes impacted by fire, smoke and water. theresa johnson's house appears to be somewhat spared and she's waitsing to finds out if they are roof was danld everything can be replaced aas long as nobody got hurt that's fine. i hope stuff happens. >> that understanding gomez mother of four was thankful for as they worked to salvage what they could sunday evening. >> i don't know about the next day. my assign sment here this is important thing. the children are fine and my husband fine and myself -- >> and even though appears the grill is to blame. fire marshall is investigating the cause this fire and red cross is helping five families tonight with food, clothing and hotels if needed water. reporting live in norristown, kenneth moton, "channel 6 action news." >> thank you, kenneth. a bar b cue m

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for more let me bring in darrell parks, attorney and partner at parks & crump. also with us tonight, dr. james peterson, msnbc contributor and director of africana studies at lehigh university. mr. parks, you first. what's the chance of these investigations having different outcomes? >> well, more than likely, ed those investigations will actually be a line on each other and gather some of the same information at the same time we've seen this in other investigations. however, the problem that we're going to see early on in this case deals with the issue of transparency. i was listening to a press conference by the police union, and already they are playing the game of not giving the public full information. i think the one thing that this case calls for and all the other cases that involve the police calls for early transparency. the game of saying wait, wait, wait, is something that the american public is not willing to tolerate at least not at this point as it relates to the police. >> mr. parks do we know who was inside the medical van with the deceased? do w

>> my brother's keeper you know people like ben crump. >> when was the last time president obama mentioned >> he mentions it all the time. >> it's got to be years. >> no. no. you're not listening. it doesn't make news. the problem is people like president obama, even the new attorney general often time they are ignored by young people who say they are party establishment. guess what you have to struggle to become a leader in this country and why would you ignore black leaders like the mayor and the president? to me these kids are out of control and i'm just glad that mom said you know what rather than have the police whoop up on the boy, i'm going to do it myself. you're going to be in trouble when you get home. that's the way it should be. >> there's a whole generation of men that are missing. >> it's a generation of black young people. i don't think there's any question people brag about how many shiny cars and hubcaps and girls they got -- rather than making excuses for t. i want to see more of the mamas taking their kids to school. that's what i'm saying. >> single mothers have to be s

darrell parks who was the attorney to trayvon martin and michael brown's families and part of the crump law firm. darrell, when you see what happened to freddie gray and the city of baltimore. for what it's worthy used i used to live in charm city what's what they called it. people take pride in their city feel connected to one another, and yet they seem to be setting it ablaze and tearing it down tonight. >> without question meghan my heart goes out to all the people. my mother was actually born in baltimore, maryland so i feel a close affection to it. and i think that many people are are trying to do some good things but these protesters are shameful to all of us for them to take the situation in the way that they're doing and destroying that city and destroying the actual neighborhoods that they live in. >> why does this keep happening, darrell? why does it keep happening? >> meghan it's a few people. it's a few people who don't know how to conduct themselves right? it's bad for all of us who do this type of work in that the country is just getting at a point where we're actually hav

. >> ben crump, let's not ex exaggerate exaggerate.country without the police. we need the police. this is a very tiny element of police forces. do you agree? >> i want to believe that wolf. and i want to believe that we have to have those good police officers. when they see things like this even if there's no video, they have to speak up because other than that you know the police chief in north charleston said we're not going to throw a blanket over it saying just because one bad officer, that's not an indictment on our officers. look what they do to the michael browns of the world, the travis carters. they throw the blanket over young black men and say we can distrust you, we can stereotype you where we don't want a blanket thrown over our community either. we want everybody to be accountable for their actions. police officers have to speak up when they see misconduct. >> just to recap, marc you want police officers all over the country to wear body camera snz. >> i would like to see body cams dash cams. i think transparency leads t

all the way to my far right we have catherine crump loses his assistant professor and assistant clinical professor and associate director of the samuelson law and technology of public policy clinic at berkeley. she's also a former staff attorney at the aclu for nine years. next to her we have erick winger who is the director of cybersecurity and privacy at cisco global affairs division here in d.c.. also former counsel at microsoft. to his left, my right is liza goguen. she is the codirector of the national security project at the brennan center also a former counsel to senator russ feingold and immediately next to me we have joseph lorenzo hall who is the chief technologist at the center for democracy and technology and we are particularly excited to have him here to talk about the technological aspects of all of this. so i'm going to remind us of what we all know know that there has been a tectonic shift in the way data is collected is stored in the ways in which we communicate over the past 10 or 15 years. so our panel is going to explore the implications of that both what has happene

so all the way on my far right we have cramp win crump who is an assistant professor and clinical prosernd associate director of the technology and public policy clinic at berkeley. she was also a former staff attorney at the east l.u. for nine years. next to here we have eric wenger who is a director of cybersecurity and privacy at cisco's global affairs division here in d.c. also former counsel at microsoft. to his left, my right, is liz today goitein, the co-director of the national security project at the brennan center. also a former counsel to senator russ feingold and immediately next to me we have joseph lorenzo hall who is the chief technologyist at the center for democracy and technology and we're particularly excited to have him here to talk about the technological aspects of all of this. so i am going to "d>ñremind us of what we all know. that there's been a tectonic shift in the way data is collected, stored, the ways in which we communicate over the past 10, 15 years. so our panel is going to explore the implications of that. both what's happened and what that means for the