i'm out of time, but i must ask you this, attorney crump. mr. derek chauvin is still facing federal charges. if convicted, he could still get more time from a federal conviction that would be added to these 22 1/2 years, is that correct? >> that's absolutely correct, reverend al. i want to make sure people understand how significant this charge was. it wasn't what the family wanted and what everybody wanted with the maximum. but remember, laquan mcdonald got shot 16 times in the back and the police officer was convicted of second-degree murder just like chauvin, and he only got six years. we have to remember botham jean was killed by a white policewoman and she said self-defense after she busted in his apartment. she was convicted on first-degree murder and only got convicted of ten years. so what has been accomplished in the name of justice for george floyd is historic, and we have to understand it's a journey to justice. this is only a few steps, but it's a large step. we're going to get there. we're going to get there. >> we will not stop til

let us bring before we bring members of the family attended, van crump, thank you. thank you very much. revenue shopped and for lead in his family and as country and prayer, as we continue to struggle to make the worse of liberty and justice, fall real in america. i stand here, we're a great legal team stand and firmly with the family of george flow, and that is attorney chris stewart, an attorney jeff miller from atlanta, georgia attorney tony rahman, new jersey from chicago, illinois as an attorney. jeff storms from right here in minneapolis and at present we have the brothers of george flor for loan as flor turned flor rodney floor as well as brandon williams. we have his cousins, sharita tate and tara brown. and we know at home prayer, we have his sisters, bridget flores, john flores, and latania flores. and certainly his beautiful daughter, chris tells me, is looking smile. i'm saying that her daddy changed the world and he will talk more about that later on. and we want to acknowledge all his family. we want to acknowledge, oh, of the people who use their boys

but ben crump described it as historic sentencing. do you think there is sort of a massive tectonic shift in the debate over race, policing, and criminal justice as something that will continue? can this wave of protests be sustained? >> i think we are going to continue in this way. this conviction of 22.5 years is not enough for the family. it's not enough for the country. but what would be? 100 years? it's not really about the years. it's about how we are going to transform public safety in this country. for black people, the question, the statement for us is, stop killing us. that is when we will have justice as black people in this country. given the statement of one of his nephews, brandon williams, who said, our family is forever broken. it wouldn't have mattered how many years. it is not about a bad apple. it is about the system of policing. that is the work that will continue. we know that one conviction will not end the killing. >> there is a question of impunity, the abuse of power as an aggravating factor. that that is some

we do have sound from reverend al sharpton and attorney ben crump. afterword, reacting to that sentencing. let's take a listen. >> dear god, we come to the same spot we bowed at the beginning of the trial, asking you to give this family strength and give them grace, and you brought us now to the end of this particular proceeding. they will say it is more time than any time in history, but we will say that history has been long under serving its citizens. and we honorably thank you for giving this family the strength to stand where other families did not even get a court date. >> yes. >> we remember eric garner, michael brown, we remember jacob blake, who is still with us. we remember tamir rice on his birthday. 19 years old, would have been today. we remember breonna taylor. they never got a court date. we did get a court date, conviction, and some time. some will say that his progress. >> you have been listening to reverend al sharpton, talking about today's historic sentencing of derek chauvin and really seeing that solitary from members of the com

and of course for many people, the sentencing doesn't go far enough, but ben crump, who, hearing from you is described as historic sentencing. do you think they sort of massive tectonic shifts in the debate? at least of race policing and criminal justice is, is something that's going to continue. can this, this a wave of civil rights protest be sustained? yes. why? i think we're continuing this. i mean this conviction of $22.00 and a half year is not enough for the family is not enough for our country, but what would be a 100 years. i mean it. ringback is not really about the years, but it is about how are we going to transform public safety in this country for black people? the question is, the statement for us is stop killing. that when we will have justice and black people in this country. and so even the statement of one of his nephews brandon williams, who said our family is ever broken. so it wouldn't have mattered how many years. and it doesn't matter that it's just show them because again, it's not about a bad apple, but it is about the system of policing. and so that is the w

for more on this is benjamin crump, the attorney for george floyd's family. as always. what sentence is the family hoping for today? >> well, the family has always articulated that they will want derek chauvin to is he sentenced the same as if the roles were reversed an the judge was sentencing george floyd for doing a terrible thing to derek chauvin. that to theme accountability. they understand that they can't get justice because justice would be bringing george back. so they are striving for full accountability today. and somewhere that would be some measure of justice. >> the law permits for the judge omar was laying out to sentence up to 40 years. do you think the prosecutors did the right thing in requesting a sentence of 30 years? >> well, attorney general ellison and his staff explained to the family of george floyd that under the sentencing guidelines, that the second-degree murder conviction, he would get 15 years. however, because of exacerbating circumstances and aggravating circumstances, that it could be upward departure to get up to 40 years. b

later to testify about what they saw and to the flood family members themselves and their counsel, ben crump, tony, we say thank you. the lives of everyone who saw what happened to george floyd are forever changed. my hope for derek chauvin is that he uses his long sentence to reflect on the choices that he made on may 25, 2020. my hope is that he will find it within himself to acknowledge the impact of his choices on george floyd, his family, his fellow police officers, and the world. my hope is that he takes the time to learn something about the man whose life he took and about the movement that rose up to call for justice in the wake of george floyd's torture and death. today is also an important moment for our country. the outcome of this case is critically important, but by itself, it's not enough. my hope for our country is that this moment gives us pause and allows us to rededicate ourselves to the real societal change that will move us much further along the road to justice. i'm not talking about the kind of change that takes decades. i'm talking about real change, concrete change th

crump, i'm out of time.ickly though, i know we might be seeing some victim impact statements as they're called ahead of the sentencing. is it possible we could hear from george floyd's daughter here? >> very possible. >> is that your expectation for today that we'll hear from her? >> very possible, yes, ma'am. >> benjamin crump, thank you very much for being with us. we appreciate your time. >>> more news now, as we speak vice president kamala harris arriving in texas, heading to the southern border for the first time since taking office. next up, texas democratic congressman joaquin castro about the criticism from her own party that the vp's trip is too, in their view, politically safe. >>> plus, we're keeping our eye on what's happening in florida, more than 150 people are unaccounted for, we're headed back to the rescue scene with potential new information coming up. ♪ barriers don't stand a chance. ♪ that's why we'll stop at nothing to deliver our technology as-a-service. ♪ ♪ you come and go ♪ ♪ karma-ka

al sharpton and floyd family lawyer ben crump, held a conference outside of minneapolis. as we prepared to play -- to pray, sentencing is the longest sentence we have seen, but it is not justice or george floyd. chauvin will be in jail. but it does not feel like we are here to celebrate, because justice would have been george floyd never having been killed. justice would have been the maximum. we have been disappointed so many times before. 22 and a half years is longer we've ever gotten, but shorter than what we should have gotten. let us remember, a man lost his life, this is not a prayer of celebration, it is a prayer to thank god for giving the strength of this family and those activists that stayed in the streets to make sure this court had to do what was right. let me repeat for those in the back, because those are the ones that marched. this is the longest sentence they have ever given, but it is not justice. justice is george floyd would be alive. justice is that they would have -- have they done sentences like this before, maybe show that would not have thought h

joining us now is benjamin crump. thank you so much for joining us tonight. what's your reaction to this official autopsy report? >> it was very insulting that they released the autopsy to the media and the family found out from the media that the autopsy was made public. but this follows entire line of disrespect and cover-up since this tragic shooting happened where yet again, another black man was shot from the behind fleeing the police. i don't know what it is, john, in america, that the most dangerous thing for white police officers is a black man running away from them, not putting them in any harm's way. >> you called the death of andrew brown, quote, an execution. the district attorney says the deputies involved were justified in their action. but the public hasn't seen the body camera footage. have you been given any additional evidence in this case? >> we have not, john. and that begs the question, if he's not going to prosecute these officers, why haven't they released all of the investigations, all of the videos? what are they trying to hide. we a

there and has stayed with the family and other families, let us bring into the family, attorney ben crump. >> thank you very much reverend for leading this family and country in prayer as we continue the struggle to make the words of justice real in america. i stand here with a great legal team. i stand firmly with the family of george floyd, attorney chris stewart, attorney justin miller, attorney tony rahman energy -- tony from illinois, and a tony jeff starnes from minneapolis, and we have the brothers of george floyd, terrence floyd, as well as brandon williams, we have his cousins, at home we have his sisters, and certainly his beautiful daughter who they tell me is smiling, saying her daddy changed the world and he he will talk more about that later. we want to acknowledge all of his family, we want to acknowledge all of the people who used their voice to say his name. say his name. >> george floyd! >> say his name! >> george floyd! >> today represents an opportunity for a turning point in america. this is the longest sentence that a police officer has ever been sentenced to in the

respond to the montage that we played that came after the sentencing of derek chauvin where you had ben crumpbers of the floyd family and the minnesota state attorney general saying, hey, senate, congress, pass the george floyd justice in policing act. your response to them? >> i couldn't agree with them more. we absolutely need to get it done. and what i'm deeply concerned about is that now that we have a little uptick in crime, that that is going to shift the debate and people will then say, forget police reform. we need the police to be unleashed. and we need reforms. we need to hold police accountable. we need transparency. we need to begin to look at public safety in our communities a little differently. >> in fact, in the washington post, we did a whole big series about reimagining public safety. but late in the week, just before the sentencing, stories -- a story broke. you and your co-negotiators said that there is a framework. we've got a framework. >> yes. >> we haven't seen the framework. what's in it? >> yes. well, basically the same components that we have been working on. there

in a piece for politico based on his new book, vendor describes how crump trump claims he quote " made juneteenth very famous after he was. -- is the book also notes trump told advisers he wished he'd get a more aggressive response to the protests after george floyd's murder. and that he regretted supported his son-in-law jared kushner's push for criminal justice reform. bender writes that trump told one confidant quote, " i've done all this stuff for the blacks. it's always jared telling me to do this. and they all blank. hate me and none of them are going to vote for me ". tonight we have yet more images of what happened during the january six infants insurrection, right desecration at our capital the. justice department release more evidence at the request of other news organizations. the feds say this clip shows a police officer being talented and assaulted outside the capital. in our usual fair warning, just like what we watch on that day in realtime, the images are disturbing. s ar di>> [bleep] don't touch me! [bleep] get the [bleep] out of here! >> no, they work for us. >> the f

we're getting a statement from the floyd family and their attorney, ben crump. this brings our family and the nation closer by healing close sure the and accountability for once a police officer wrongly took the live of a black man. it is tragic. day after day, your after year, police kill black people without consequence. today with chauvin's sentence, we take a significant stiff forward. something that was unimaginable a short time ago -- i'm looking at this final part. to achieve all of this, real lasting change in police departments from coast to coast, we need the u.s. senate to pass the george floyd justice and policing act without further delay. i had to get the rest hov that statement. i apologize for that. jonathan turley with us right now. jonathan, your thoughts on the 22 1/2 years and where this goes. >> this is pretty much in the zone that we discussed. many people wanted a 30-year sentence. the baseline for this offense is 150 months. that's 12 1/2 years. he got 22 1/2. so he had ten years tacked on. because the court found four aggravating circums

link because they were a relationship with china and i think it was a political motivation to destroy crump -- president trump's credibility. it was known that he was right in 2020, think you would be president today. >> he did such a good job with the russian investigation, can you please explain what this gu is? has ever been a sighting of the last year? what happened to the report, what happened to the work that he was doing? we where were the referrals rum michael hurwitz's inspector general report? let me ask you this, i'm watching what's going on and th way that the liberal media bob and democrats are reacting to joe mansion, who actually seems to have read the constitution and understands that no voter id , no signature verification, no checks and balances or integrity in elections is a bad idea. he's been called everything fro a racist on down, the same with cinema and the same with gettin bread of the legislative filibuster. as you look at joe biden pressing agenda, it seems like it is right out of the radical new green deal socialist spot and out of touch with the american people.

. >> benjamin crump, i appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> a lot of news tonight. it continues. let's hand it over to chris. >> appreciate it, john. welcome to "prime time," we have breaking news on our watch. claims of deep state intrusion, they were more true than we knew. trump was making those claims, but he was also the one doing what he was complaining about. the new york times nails the trump administration for going to extremes to track down leaks early in his term. exacts between trump associates and russia, acccontacts that happened. the trump doj took the extraordinary step of having prosecutors subpoena apple for data from the accounts of at least two democrats on the house intelligence committee, along with their aides, their family members, and even kids. and they put a gag order on apple. so apple wasn't allowed to tell anybody about what was going on, even though they were main members of this government. one of them, was adam schiff, who is now chairman of the intel committee.

. >> julie: under crump he wasn't allowed to talk. i thought he was very credible at that time.his is the guy we trusted. the fact that he said attacking him is an attack on science when he says he's the definition of science might check with my pals at webster dictionary and they defined science, fauci's name is not in there. the state of knowing, knowing knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding. here we go with the misunderstanding. marriage counseling. i guess we misunderstood the fact that masks do not protect us. is that what we misunderstood? he is saying that he didn't prove to be helpful outside a hospital setting? so it's okay for doctors but not the rest of us, like those in the nursing home dying by the thousands. less is more, fauci. stop talking. >> greg: it's about time. kat, somebody attacked kat timpf, they would be attacking... >> kat: oh, god. i'm not going to do that. i'm not a psycho. i am only kind of psycho. i am moderately hinged. this is crazy. to say i'm science, that's like charlie sheen circa 2011 crazy. i am science? i thought he

he's going to sit down with floyd's family attorney ben crump as well as floyd's cousin ahead of today's sentencing. you can watch that interview at 7:00, right after "today in the bay." >>> a mystery off the coast of san diego. right now you're looking at new video of a dolphin pod swimming through one of two oil sheens discovered over the weekend. the whale watching crews saw the sheen and flew a drone over it. one spill is floating near point loma. the other near san clemente island and the coast guard is calling them diesel spills that will break up naturally but not clear how that happened. >>> one no doubt about it home run for the bay area. we've got a look at oracle park reopening at 100% capacity for the first game of the bay bridge series. going to take you there with "today in the bay's" cierra johnson. she's live in san francisco this morning taking us out to the ball game for just a minute and tell us what we can expect if we're lucky enough to go. >> reporter: good morning, laura. game one of the bay bridge series will look a little different than some of the previous games

we did get earlier today on msnbc hallie was interviewing benjamin crump and asked if george floyd's daughter would give one of those statements and the family attorney said it was possible but wouldn't go beyond that. we don't know who will give the victim impact statements. we do know it is usually the first thing that will happen during a sentencing hearing. we then know we'll hear from the prosecution. they're arguing for derek chauvin to serve 30 years in prison. we'll then hear from the defense. they're arguing for time served and probation saying that derek chauvin is 45 years old and he would be a threat in prison and saying he was the product of a bad system and then we know the sentencing guidelines which suggests that someone like derek chauvin for this second degree murder charged with typically face between 10 1/2 to 15 years in prison. so, there's a lot of discretion here over what will exactly happen. we don't know what that number will ultimately be. but we do plan to get a sense of that after those statements from the defense and prosecution and we'll hear the judge,

let us bring before we bring members of the family attorney ben crump. >> thank you. thank you very much, reverend al sharpton for leading this family and this country in prayer as we continue the struggle to make the words of liberty and justice for all real in america. i stand here with a great legal team, standing firmly with the family of george floyd. that is attorney chris stewart and attorney justin miller from atlanta, georgia. attorney tony ram muchi from chicago, illinois, and attorney jeff storms from right here in minneapolis. and at present we have the brothers of george floyd, philonise floyd, terrence floyd, and rodney floyd, as well as brandon williams. we have his cousins sharita and tara brown. we know at home we have his sisters bridget floyd, jaja floyd and latonya floyd, and certainly his beautiful daughter, chris tells me, is looking, smiling, saying that her daddy changed the world, and he will talk more about that later. and we want to acknowledge all his family. we want to acknowledge all of the people who used their voice to say his name. say

reverend al sharpton is joined by george floyd's brother, philonise floyd, and the floyd attorney, ben crumphair tomorrow 3:00 p.m. eastern. the rev and "politicsnation" starts right now. >>> good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lede, crimes and punishments. right now we're not questioning if justice was done, but how much of it, as former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin begins his nearly 23-year prison sentence handed down friday for the murder of george floyd. it's been met

. >> as you know, chief ramsey, the floyd-family attorney, ben crump, says this is one of the longest sentences ever given to a former-police officer. so, what message does this send to police officers who go ahead and abuse their power? >> well, i mean, it does send a message. and obviously,fficer should nev their power and authority. but remember, wolf, this is not a case of an officer making a split-second decision. or, you know, debating whether or not the use of force was more than what was actually needed. i mean, this is a clearcut case here. but again, it's not a reflection of policing, in general. i've done this for 47 years. and does it -- i mean, we have got some police officers that never should wear the badge. there's no question about that. but the vast majority do their job, and do it properly, each and every time. and so, you know, i just hope that people maintain that balance, in terms of trying to judge policing, in general. but derek chauvin, certainly, got what he deserved. there's no question about that. and anyone who acts like derek chauvin should take note that

let us bring -- before we bring members of the family, attorney ben crump. >> thank you. thank you very much, reverend al sharpton, for leading this family and this country in prayer as we continue to struggle to make the words of liberty and justice for all real in america. i stand here with a great legal team standing firmly with the family of george floyd, that is attorney chris stewart and attorney justin miller from atlanta, georgia, attorney from chicago, illinois, and attorney jeff storms from right here in minneapolis. and at present we have the brothers of george floyd, terrance floyd and rodney floyd as well as brandon williams. we have his cousins charita tate and we know at home we have his sisters bridget floyd and latonya floyd and certainly his beautiful daughter chris tells me is looking, smiling, saying that her daddy changed the world and he will talk more about that later. and we want to acknowledge all of his family. we want to acknowledge all of the people who used their voice to say his name. say his name! >> george floyd. >> say his name! >> george

cnn is watching this right now, and i've got ben crump coming.you guys are racist, and this is the only reason this is coming out. stop this right here. malia cohen, you said let's take care of the people's business in the open. well, let's take care of it by far on these guys. i'm done. >> vice president elias: thank you, officer babbs. i also wants to note, for the record, officer babbs, we did receive the materials that you send today to the commission office, and those materials that you have been provided since the close of evidence on june 7 have been collected and disbursed to each of the members on behalf of the commission. >> thank you. >> vice president elias: so i just wanted to make sure you were aware of that. so at this time, what i want to do is open it up to my fellow colleagues and my fellow commissioners with any questions. i think you, commissioner hamasaki, are in the queue? >> commissioner hamasaki: i am in the queue, vice president elias, and i'd like to start with officer babbs. can you clarify what the standing of the stat

cnn is watching this right now, and i've got ben crump coming.you guys are racist, and this is the only reason this is coming out. stop this right here. malia cohen, you said let's take care of the people's business in the open. well, let's take care of it by far on these guys. i'm done. >> vice president elias: thank you, officer babbs. i also wants to note, for the record, officer babbs, we did receive the materials that you send today to the commission office, and those materials that you have been provided since the close of evidence on june 7 have been collected and disbursed to each of the members on behalf of the commission. >> thank you. >> vice president elias: so i just wanted to make sure you were aware of that. so at this time, what i want to do is open it up to my fellow colleagues and my fellow commissioners with any questions. i think you, commissioner hamasaki, are in the queue? >> commissioner hamasaki: i am in the queue, vice president elias, and i'd like to start with officer babbs. can you clarify what the standing of the stat

it works well for benjamin crump, for al sharpton, it works well for the people that purport to helprs, we can't use that -- will: by the way, thanksgiving, i think -- pete: day off number one, number two, number three, no christmas, no thanksgiving -- rachel: well, maybe you could call it, indigenous peoples day, is that what they call it? [inaudible conversations] >> the best weapon in this fight is the truth. and speaking the truth. i mean that. being a truth teller out there in a sea of lies. it's not the first person who stands up. yeah, that person's important. it's the second person who backs them up. this war on language is a very deliberate tactic by the left. you can win an ideological war before a shot's fired by manipulating the language. when you change the language, you with recharacterize how people act and talk. think about it. the left has changed the rules on language a thousand times to make you -- you just said it, use the word thanksgiving, oh, my gosh, you're definitely a xenophobe. wait, what? i just want to enjoy turkey with my family. you lose before you even

al sharpton and floyd family lawyer ben crump, held a conference outside of minneapolis. this is about 40 minutes. >> as we prepare to bring family of jacob blake who is with us, and the family of daunte wright is with us, this verdict and this sentencing is the longest sentence we have seen, but it is not justice or george floyd. chauvin will be in jail. but it does not feel like we are here to celebrate, because justice would have been george floyd never having been killed. justice would have been the maximum. we have been disappointed so many times before. 22 and a half years is longer we've ever gotten, but shorter than what we should have gotten. let us remember, a man lost his life, this is not a prayer of celebration, it is a prayer to thank god for giving the strength of this family and those