. >> yeah, but he's cruyff turns.but yeah, i mean, in terms of the cynical calculation, i suppose he's saying the calculation to go and do an interview and cram in as much as you can to your election schedule and something like that. but yeah, it's a massive backfire. there's almost not much, much more to say about it. we covered it so much in the first section, but yes, i don't know. is there any element of like where people are just making political capital from it and they don't really care themselves and they're just being opportunistic? >> well, yeah . i mean, of course >> well, yeah. i mean, of course that's what they'd all do. what made me laugh is that rishi's come out and said, no, come on, don't politicise, don't politicise this. >> it's just such a weak well, i mean, he literally politicised it. he went to do an interview. >> how could it not be. yes, exactly. >> i mean he actually politicised d—day by going to do a political interview. and now he's saying, oh, don't politicise it. i mean, it's, yeah, i mea