you might start by reading cs lewis. i had never heard much about cs lewis.some of the things he had written, particularly mere christianity, made it clear there is a compelling, intellectual, rational basis for faith which i had totally missed and assumed did not exist. it took me a couple of years of fighting against that, trying to prove this was all wrong and that i could stick with my agnosticism, but ultimately i realized i couldn't and that it was so compelling. i had to figure out which of the ways of understanding god is going to be the one that i can make the most sense out of. after many considerations of various faith traditions, ultimately the person of jesus appealed to me in a remarkable way as a historical figure, not a myth, who had answers to questions i needed answers for, and whose life, death, and resurrection seem to be remarkably well documented. david: your view would be that what is in the bible is allegorical, not to be taken as absolute fact. in other words, the bible would say maybe the earth is a couple of thousand years old, scie

cs lewis great line -- when the kids are talking to mr. and mrs. beaver, and lion and witch and regard robe they ask mr. beaver, is aslin safe hen mr. beaver, of course, says no. he's not safe but he's good. so you paraphrase that the great line of liberal arts, the great line of the academy, the great lion of the university, the great lion of the ivory tower is it supposed to be safe? or o is it supposed to be good there's a huge difference. sir i think we're actually at a time where if the ideas don't make you feel comfortable and safe, unchallenged that those ideas can be askewed those ideas can be labeled as bad ideas. and that is not the measure of a free society that's the measure of ideological fascism that's not the measure of intellectual freedom. if you haven't read first corinthian 13 read it and you tell me what's offense oive in that other than -- it may make you feel uncomfortable for not measuring up. good! i'm glad it does. i'm glad it does. i'm not interested in -- interested excuse me i'm not interested in coddling you or comforti

number one, cs lewis, do what he told you to do. before you read a new book, pick up a dozen or so old ones and read them. those ideas have been around a while and there's reason they been around a while. they stood the testof time so don't assume , and he accused his own burgeoning new generation of chronological snobbery. i'll be so blunt as to challenge you not to fall into the same trap. don't get involved in chronological snobbery where you think the only idea worth considering is something that came across your twitter feed. >> don't read the old books that have stood the test of time and know what they say. odds are, because they won the debate thousand years ago, they will probably be of value in winning the debate today. that would be my first piece of advice, the second is get some courage and have some confidence. it's amazing to me, it's amazing to me how few people on the conservative side of the debate have the courage and confidence to engage at all. maybe it's because intuitively we differ to good manners. intuitivel

mcdonald a writer from the turn of the 1800s to the 19 hundreds one that led to the conversion of the cs lewis if you well. have this to say. the core principle of hell is i am my own i am my own king. in the center and i'm the object and i am the end. my judge it -- my judgment is there. anything from marriage to morality from male to female anything from what it means to be good this claim of godlike deity can only lead to the ugly hell of our own making. the only repentance and confession. so i'm the guy this is the university it's not a daycare. let me give you a little bit of a context and then we will launch into a little bit as we go along also. i was just before thanksgiving 2015 they still have required chapels every once wednesday and friday. i received a phone call from one of my vice presidents. i did not go to chapel that day i have some thing else to do and he wanted to call me and let me know that there could be a problem. he said it is what you do not my our students after chapel came to me played the victimization card. he told me that i have offended him. and i have singled h

. >> host: a couple books you listed that you are currently reading cs lewis. >> lewis is his own literaturen the same way shakespeare is his own literature even more so, and i am not saying lewis is greater than shakespeare, but he wrote in so many genres he is his own literature. his narnia chronicles i didn't read until i was 30 i am astounded with him as a writer. he is one of the most brilliant writers. some of the space trilogies rival any of the realism put to paper if not sus pass it. people in elite circles tend to smear at that. he is about as talented of a human being as every come along. i recommend everything he wrote. i am not a huge fan of his letters. everybody says that is his favorite book. of all his books i think the narnia chronicles are the best books that have been written. the theology incarnated is spectacular. if you want to understand christianity, i would say read those books before you pick up a bible commentary by john mccarthy or whatever. and not putting down mccarthy but there is something lewis does to get past stuff nobody else ever has. >> host: and we wil